Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

[OrbitalDawn]

Officials rejected Jared Kushner for top secret security clearance, but were overruled

Jared Kushner's application for a top secret clearance was rejected by two career White House security specialists after an FBI background check raised concerns about potential foreign influence on him — but their supervisor overruled the recommendation and approved the clearance.

The official, Carl Kline, is a former Pentagon employee who was installed as director of the personnel security office in the Executive Office of the President in May 2017. Kushner's was one of at least 30 cases in which Kline overruled career security experts and approved a top secret clearance for incoming Trump officials despite unfavorable information, the two sources said. They said the number of rejections that were overruled was unprecedented — it had happened only once in the three years preceding Kline's arrival.

Seems bad.

Trump installs a toadie that overrules career staff on security clearances so that his other toadies can pass. Good thing people spent almost no time at all pretending to care about the handling of classified information by a certain presidential candidate.

 

[Emjay]

I seem to remember starting a thread about a rise of right wing violence, much of which is race related. But the main issues today are structural rather than overt.

Please show me how right wing extremism is making black people poor?

 

[rietrot]

Please show me how right wing extremism is making black people poor?

The inbreeding hillbilly's secretly control the world, oh no!

 

[Emjay]

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Sorry, I cannot read your article as its locked behind a paywall.

Let me get this straight? The police should stop targeting black people less? What about the crime that they are committing? Are the police fabricating evidence against these people? Are you advocating for more policing in white areas to even out the conviction rates?

If a man is arrested and convicted because he is black, then that is wrong. If he has committed the crime, that is the law working.

 

[cerebus]

Please show me how right wing extremism is making black people poor?

You seem to be confused about the definition of 'systemic' racism; I.e that it doesn't consist of individual acts, but of legislation and behaviour that disproportionately impacts on blacks. For example, the war on drugs, or urban housing projects, or the skewed incarceration rates that OD pointed to; or the GOP's weaponization of reproductive right restrictions.

Nobody ever accused you of being racist, but by painting over the problems that exist you become part of the problem.

 

[Emjay]

You seem to be confused about the definition of 'systemic' racism; I.e that it doesn't consist of individual acts, but of legislation and behaviour that disproportionately impacts on blacks. For example, the war on drugs, or urban housing projects, or the skewed incarceration rates that OD pointed to; or the GOP's weaponization of reproductive right restrictions.

Nobody ever accused you of being racist, but by painting over the problems that exist you become part of the problem.

Because something impacts a section of the population more does not make it racist.

The GOP didn't "weaponize" abortion restrictions either. Jesus. If the GOP was racist they would have pushed for more abortion rights and then flooded the poor communities with abortion clinics. You understand far more black babies are aborted every year, right? What is wrong with you? Not everything is about race. Very little is. You are the type of person to make it though, so not surprising.

 

[cerebus]

Because something impacts a section of the population more does not make it racist.

Systemically speaking, yes it does. For example the history of urban housing is woven through with racist segregation that created the modern day inner city ghettos.

https://timeline.com/redlining-federal-housing-racist-14d7f48267e8

 

[Emjay]

Systemically speaking, yes it does. For example the history of urban housing is woven through with racist segregation that created the modern day inner city ghettos.

https://timeline.com/redlining-federal-housing-racist-14d7f48267e8

Well done. You have just enforced a culture of victimhood and not one of competence. Your soft bigotry of low expectations is coming through.

 

[cerebus]

Well done. You have just enforced a culture of victimhood and not one of competence. Your soft bigotry of low expectations is coming through.

Lol how so? You can't just parrot Ben Shapiro phrases that you don't really understand.

 

[Emjay]

Lol how so? You can't just parrot Ben Shapiro phrases that you don't really understand.

It's not a Ben Shapiro phrase. Nice try though.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Trump ally Roger Stone arrested on seven charges

Roger Stone, a key ally of Donald Trump, has been arrested on charges of obstruction, witness tampering and making false statements, the special counsel’s office announced on Friday.

Stone was arrested in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, following an indictment by a federal grand jury on 24 January in Washington DC, said a spokesman for Robert Mueller, who is investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 US election and any ties to the Trump campaign.

Stone will appear in court later on Friday, Peter Carr said.

Wonder how long it'll take him to fold like a cheap suit.

 

[C4Cat]

It's not a Ben Shapiro phrase. Nice try though.

What does it mean though?

 

[greg0205]

Trump ally Roger Stone arrested on seven charges



Wonder how long it'll take him to fold like a cheap suit.

The Grand Jury convened yesterday, and the last time they convened on a Thursday, indictments rolled out on Friday. I've been waiting for the shoe to drop...

This is as huge as it is unsurprising.

EDIT: If he flips, the list of folk he can flip on are Jared, Don Jr and tre45on. I don't think he'll get any benefit from rolling on Julian Assange.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

The Grand Jury convened yesterday, and the last time they convened on a Thursday, indictments rolled out on Friday. I've been waiting for the shoe to drop...

This is as huge as it is unsurprising.

Story has been updated. It's about Stone having fore-knowledge of WikiLeaks' possession of the stolen documents and its release, and his communication with someone senior in the Trump campaign about it.

Indictment here:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1088758796338556928

The House Intel charge is big: Dems begged Republicans to send the transcript of his testimony to Mueller and demand more info from Stone. They said months ago they suspected him of perjury. Rs balked.

Oh look, Dems on Intel Committee were right, and the Repubs protected him.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Sorry, I cannot read your article as its locked behind a paywall.

Let me get this straight? The police should stop targeting black people less? What about the crime that they are committing? Are the police fabricating evidence against these people? Are you advocating for more policing in white areas to even out the conviction rates?

If a man is arrested and convicted because he is black, then that is wrong. If he has committed the crime, that is the law working.

What? No. It honestly doesn't seem like you've even read my post properly. Even when they commit less crime, they still arrest them more often, and they get harsher (felony-level) sentences compared to white people, for the same crime (when there is a conviction).

Do yourself a favour and read the Department of Justice's report on their investigation into the Ferguson Police Department. It's a textbook case study in how systemic racism infects a police force and plays itself out in horrific ways on the community.

 

[greg0205]

Story has been updated. It's about Stone having fore-knowledge of WikiLeaks' possession of the stolen documents and its release, and his communication with someone senior in the Trump campaign about it.

Yep. John Brennan is on MSNBC now, using words like "criminal conspiracy".

EDIT: Comment from the tweet in your edit: "I haven’t Schadened a Freude like this in a while"... and I'll be right back after I clean this coffee off my screen.

 

[Emjay]

What? No. It honestly doesn't seem like you've even read my post properly. Even when they commit less crime, they still arrest them more often, and they get harsher (felony-level) sentences compared to white people, for the same crime (when there is a conviction).

Do yourself a favour and read the Department of Justice's report on their investigation into the Ferguson Police Department. It's a textbook case study in how systemic racism infects a police force and plays itself out in horrific ways on the community.

https://nypost.com/2016/09/28/hillary-clintons-completely-wrong-about-racist-policing/

Blacks, though 23 percent of the city’s population, commit over three-quarters of all shootings. Add in Hispanic shootings, and you account for 98 percent of all shootings in New York. Whites, 34 percent of the city’s population, commit less than 2 percent of all shootings.

The reality of crime, not phantom racism, determines the incidence of police activity.

Clinton also complained that “too many young African-American and Latino men end . . . up in jail for non-violent offenses.” In fact, the majority of prisoners in the US are serving time for violent felonies.

I will say it again. These men are not going to jail for crimes they did not commit. There is more policing in the areas because they are more violent and commit crimes at a higher rate. You are projecting some inherit bias into this process and does not account for their individual agency. We do not police these areas less as a result, because violence will increase and those communities will be severely impacted. The underlying reasons of why these areas are so riddled in crime should be addressed and the incarcerations rates should go down.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

What does it mean though?

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/racism_of_low_expectations

Derived from "the soft bigotry of low expectations", attributed to US speechwriter Michael Gerson.
Noun
racism of low expectations (uncountable)

1. A form of racial discrimination where certain racial groups are offered benefits and assistance because of an implicit belief that they are less able to cope in society without them

 

[C4Cat]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/racism_of_low_expectations

How does that relate to recognizing that systemic racism and regulations of segregation have led to specific negative outcomes for groups of people? (which is what OD and cerebus were pointing out). In South Africa, for example, should we ignore the spacial disparities that segregation has created (townships etc) because to try and fix that by direct action would be considered soft bigotry of low expectations?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Systemically speaking, yes it does. For example the history of urban housing is woven through with racist segregation that created the modern day inner city ghettos.

https://timeline.com/redlining-federal-housing-racist-14d7f48267e8

Lol. I like how your article mentions the eugenics movement but fails to mention how Planned Parenthood was started by a eugenicist named Margaret Sanger.