Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part II Covfefe

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Gingerbeardman said:
Yup, and when he declares a national emergency and re-appropriates funds to get his wall, all will be forgiven.


Lol, this is the most pathetic denial of grassroots reports of how the Dems have been perceived because of the shutdown I've ever seen.



Your link's opening paragraph:

How anaemic. And just wait until Pelosi carries on trying to screw with Trump over the SOTU. Trump has given her all the rope she needs to hang herself with, and I doubt she has the moxy to realise the trap that has been set for her. :ROFL:


Yeah, I see a lot of people reacting like the shutdown has ended rather than the shutdown has ended for 21 days. Point?


The walls are closing in, it's the beginning of the end... :sleep:
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When he declares a national emergency, Democrats will cheer and dance 'cos tre45on just gave them precedent for a GND, single payer health care and gun restrictions. Bring it. I'm sure Republicans will build statues and cathedrals honouring tre45on for *those* emergency declarations, don't cha think?
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Then, since the shutdown started Donnie Tantrum has consistency received *more* of the blame. Everyone suffers politically in a shutdown. The rule is 'tho, you cause it, you take more pain. And he has.
Yesterday's tweet gives him full ownership of any shutdown in three weeks, and more pain will be heaped on tre45on and the GOP.

"There isn't any education in the second kick of a mule" - Mitch McConnell

But sure, take that second kick.

Finally. Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi.

Miss Nancy kicked your asses twice in a week and y'all learned nothing. Donnie got his wall, it's called Nancy, and your denialist, "I'll get you next time Gadget" makes you the saddest Doctor Claw in the world.

Nancy is the G.O.A.T and Donnie is just a goat. Of course, you don't have to believe me now. I mean you've only had two masterclasses in a week... Perhaps after the 20th or 30th humiliation by a girl you'll come around... I'll be holding thumbs for you.
 
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greg0205 said:
When he declares a national emergency, Democrats will cheer and dance 'cos tre45on just gave them precedent for a GND, single payer health care and gun restrictions. Bring it. I'm sure Republicans will build statues and cathedrals honouring tre45on for *those* emergency declarations, don't cha think?
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Keep dreaming. Declaring a national emergency and reappropriating funds doesn't equate to the power to write legislation, but nice try. :ROFL:

Then, since the shutdown started Donnie Tantrum has consistency received *more* of the blame. Everyone suffers politically in a shutdown. The rule is 'tho, you cause it, you take more pain. And he has.
Yesterday's tweet gives him full ownership of any shutdown in three weeks, and more pain will be heaped on tre45on and the GOP.
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You're shifting the goalposts. The PR battle is not who takes blame for the shutdown. Even if everyone blames Trump for the shutdown, if the Dems come out looking like they don't care about border security and are willing to screw over the American people for the sake of sticking it to Trump, Trump wins.

"There isn't any education in the second kick of a mule" - Mitch McConnell

But sure, take that second kick.

Finally. Nancy Patricia D'Alesandro Pelosi.

Miss Nancy kicked your asses twice in a week and y'all learned nothing. Donnie got his wall, it's called Nancy, and your denialist, "I'll get you next time Gadget" makes you the saddest Doctor Claw in the world.

Nancy is the G.O.A.T and Donnie is just a goat. Of course, you don't have to believe me now. I mean you've only had two masterclasses in a week... Perhaps after the 20th or 30th humiliation by a girl you'll come around... I'll be holding thumbs for you.
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Lol, here's your problem. You don't actually care about America's border security, therefore you don't give a crap about what Pelosi defiles in her attempt to show the world how she can stick it to Donnie. But 80% of America does.
 
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theratman said:
And if he doesn't and the wall doesn't get built? Would nothing be forgiven? Curious to see your take on that scenario.
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Nope, if the wall doesn't get built then he will look weak and ineffective. Basically that would kill any chance of him getting re-elected, especially since he went so far as to provoke a shutdown over it.
 
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Nope, if the wall doesn't get built then he will look weak and ineffective. Basically that would kill any chance of him getting re-elected, especially since he went so far as to provoke a shutdown over it.
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Agree with that statement. Likely to become an even bigger priority for him.
 
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The PR message the Dems are portaying is that they care more about minorities (except the Jews) and immigrants (legal and illegal) than the American people.
 
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theratman said:
Agree with that statement. Likely to become an even bigger priority for him.
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Well, him declaring the national emergency was basically a foregone conclusion when the shutdown started, as I see it. The shutdown provides the justification for the need to declare a national emergency in the first place, because it shows that he can't work with the Dems through normal processes. He's just milking the whole affair to inflict maximum reputation damage on the Dems in the process. 2 years from now, the fact that he was willing to suffer humiliating setbacks during the shutdown in order to protect the interests of the country will be excellent propaganda against whoever his 2020 opponent is, particularly if they were one of the people trying to bust Donnie's balls over the issue.
 
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Gingerbeardman said:
Keep dreaming. Declaring a national emergency and reappropriating funds doesn't equate to the power to write legislation, but nice try. :ROFL:


You're shifting the goalposts. The PR battle is not who takes blame for the shutdown. Even if everyone blames Trump for the shutdown, if the Dems come out looking like they don't care about border security and are willing to screw over the American people for the sake of sticking it to Trump, Trump wins.


Lol, here's your problem. You don't actually care about America's border security, therefore you don't give a crap about what Pelosi defiles in her attempt to show the world how she can stick it to Donnie. But 80% of America does.
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She defiles Trump, but maybe you weren’t paying attention.

Then, good luck with eminent domain.

... And border security? As the saying goes, 85% of statistics are made up on the spot...

You know the drill. Show sources for Dems not wanting any border security at all, as well as 80% of folks wanting a wall (‘tho I feel you’re deliberately hedging here with a bait-and-switch to security anyway).

Short of that sweet summer child, stay in your bubble with propagandists dancing in your head, safe from the cultural Marxists on the other side of its walls.
 
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greg0205 said:
She defiles Trump, but maybe you weren’t paying attention.

Then, good luck with eminent domain.
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The executive has the prerogative to declare eminent domain. The executive does not have the prerogative to declare gun bans or to rewrite legislation such that a GND or single-payer healthcare gets established and funded. And frankly, I'd love to see some idiotic president try to fund a GND or similar by repeatedly taking funds the legislature appropriated for other things. :ROFL:

... And border security? As the saying goes, 85% of statistics are made up on the spot...

You know the drill. Show sources for Dems not wanting any border security at all, as well as 80% of folks wanting a wall (‘tho I feel you’re deliberately hedging here with a bait-and-switch to security anyway).
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It's not my fault if you can't be bothered to read/remember what I've quoted to you in the past in this thread. And it's really no skin off my nose if you choose not to believe me, since you're not going to believe anything I say anyway. Like I said, you don't engage in good faith.

Short of that sweet summer child, stay in your bubble with propagandists dancing in your head, safe from the cultural Marxists on the other side of its walls.
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Ja ja. Likewise, enjoy being deluded enough to actively destroy liberal democracy with your fantasies of systemic racism based on grievance studies malarkey that doesn't even know how to control for a variable like IQ.
 
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cerebus said:
He had offers for funding which he turned down. I think $25bn was tabled at one point.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-his-goal-of-building-a-border-wall-slip-away
Trump’s best chance for border wall funding at the level he wants came in February 2018, when Republican Senator Mike Rounds teamed up with independent Senator Angus King on compromise immigration legislation.

It included $25 billion over a decade to build a wall along the southern border and a path to citizenship for so-called Dreamers who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children. It also barred green card holders from sponsoring adult children for permanent residency and reoriented enforcement priorities to focus on criminals in the country illegally.
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So he was offered $25bn, and now he's asking for $5bn... :unsure:
 
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ponder said:
His daca court cases got him nowhere so it's not something i would use as a bargaining chip.
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His DACA offer was a scam. He was trying to slip in provisos preventing South Americans from getting asylum citizenship. Dems did well to shut it down.

I'm quite shocked that they held out so long on Trump. It's hard to imagine a worse outcome for him than forcing the country to endure 2 months of missed federal payslips with literally nothing to show for it. I won't be surprised if the GOP leaders pull away from him now. He's got nothing left.
 
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