Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

Status
Not open for further replies.

greg0205

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 18, 2010
Messages
28,863
Just one question: How would the IC know, given that the FBI never got to look at the server? Oh that's right, they had to take Crowdstrike's word for it. And who was paying Crowdstrike? Oh that's right, Perkins Coie. And who else was Perkins Coie paying? Oh that's right, Fusion GPS. Hmmm, what do those all have in common? I wonder....

Ok, I lied, second question: You are the one who makes the big decisions in the DNC. You're about 5 months out from the elections, and Wikileaks makes it public that they will be releasing stuff sourced from your servers. You anticipate that it could sink your candidate if you don't spin it somehow. How do you respond?

https://artvoice.com/2018/03/27/debunking-false-claim-guccifer-2-0-definitely-russian-asset/

Sorry Xarog, not going down this inane rabbit hole with you. The new thread is back in N&CA and I'd prefer to keep it that way.

The FBI *did* look at the server images... and you really mean the 140 mostly cloud based servers, don't you..? and imaging is SOP in cases like this and has been for ages... and those images were provided to the FBI... and the FBI were okay with that.

You're wired to see conspiracy, I'm not, and that's not changing anytime soon. I'm moving on. You coming along or will you be entertaining yourself here for a bit?
 

buka001

Honorary Master
Joined
Oct 16, 2009
Messages
16,981
Just one question: How would the IC know, given that the FBI never got to look at the server? Oh that's right, they had to take Crowdstrike's word for it. And who was paying Crowdstrike? Oh that's right, Perkins Coie. And who else was Perkins Coie paying? Oh that's right, Fusion GPS. Hmmm, what do those all have in common? I wonder....

Ok, I lied, second question: You are the one who makes the big decisions in the DNC. You're about 5 months out from the elections, and Wikileaks makes it public that they will be releasing stuff sourced from your servers. You anticipate that it could sink your candidate if you don't spin it somehow. How do you respond?

https://artvoice.com/2018/03/27/debunking-false-claim-guccifer-2-0-definitely-russian-asset/
Seth Rich conspiracy ...
72ef1f981f805a377e023b1e705089ac.jpg
 

Gingerbeardman

Executive Member
Joined
Nov 6, 2018
Messages
5,472
You're wired to see conspiracy, I'm not, and that's not changing anytime soon. I'm moving on. You coming along or will you be entertaining yourself here for a bit?
Banker bet on those Reagan country Republicans... Or maybe on Russian troll farms swarming PA, WI and MI using voter data stolen from the DNC. Who knows GBM, who knows?
This is the second time today that you are flat out doing what you accuse other people of, Mr doesn't do conspiracies. What a little crybaby you are. :ROFL:
 

greg0205

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 18, 2010
Messages
28,863
David Rothkopf is well with a follow on Twitter, 'tho probably not for folk I clash with in this thread.

Here's a rollup of his latest...

For decades the US system has been rigged for the rich, for whites, for men. Fixing that so that everyone may benefit from America's growth and share in our country's critical decisions is the central issue of the 2020 election and the next decades.

It is also the central mission of the Democratic Party. The GOP has demonstrated that they are the party of Wall Street. The Dems are and should be the party of Main Street. But Dem centrists have been coopted by Wall Street for decades as well.

I was in the Clinton Administration and we were driven by an unhealthy pre-occupation with bond markets and the tastes and views of the financial community. Many of the same people and ideas were found in the Obama Administration.

The perception is the establishment in both parties are complicit in rigging the system to favor the few. That's the perception because it is true. Trump, paradoxically given his billionaire status, was elected by the disenfranchised because he seemed an outsider & not "owned."

Of course, he was not. He was not only a tool of the very rich but also foreign enemies of the U.S. He was not only advancing the interests of his billionaire buddies but he was also cashing in on the presidency as never before, the most corrupt president in American history.

He was not the alternative to the process by which the establishment has been rigging the system and exacerbating inequality in America since the 1970s, he was actually the worst example of it. He was, we must hope, the nadir that sets off alarms and mobilizes action.

While politicians speculate about what events will drive the election results in 2020, regular people go to bed at night worrying if tomorrow will bankrupt them. Half of Americans would be undone by an unexpected expense in excess of $1000. Half have savings under $400.

They go to bed staring at the ceiling wondering how they will make it. They also know that Washington won't help. The last round of tax cuts didn't touch them, didn't create jobs, weren't reinvested. They went to the rich, the 1%.

The benefits of the last recovery went to America's wealthiest too. Average Americans see higher education as something that will create a life long debt burden. They see good health care as an impossible dream that if needed, will undo their lives.

They know their pension plans are likely to go bust & that Social Security won't be there for them. They know the old social contract is not only obsolete, it is falling apart. If they are black, Latino, immigrants or women, they know the system is even more stacked against them.

And they have heard the same old same old from politicians for so long that they don't trust them. The current unprecedented national scandal we are weathering doesn't help. But change is essential.

We must address and reverse inequality, create opportunity, upgrade education from pre-K through college, make it affordable, protect the environment, identify the jobs of tomorrow and promote American competitiveness, protect pensions, combat the sources of economic anxiety.

We must fight the partisanship and gridlock and pervasive corruption in Washington--and the system that offers the presidency and high offices to the highest bidders from home and abroad. We must make new coalitions and end the racism and sexism by promoting real inclusion.

We took a step in this direction by electing a House of Representatives that looks more like America than any other in our history. But we are only part of the way. Having a Congress that is 25 percent women is an improvement...but a long way from representative of reality.

Responding to these issues is what is driving the current political discussion in the U.S. The pundits who see the "rise of the left" in Democratic politics are using old language cooked up by Wall Street to protect their interests.

It is not "leaning left" to seek equity, fairness, justice, opportunity, competence and an end to corruption. It is both being an American and listening to the needs of the majority of Americans today. In fact many of the "new ideas" circulating...

...like fair taxation of the ultra rich are not new at all. They are the original ideas we started out with long ago, in Republican and Democratic administrations alike. So too providing basic guarantees for retirement, decent schools, or shared opportunity for all.

That is not the GOP platform to be sure. It is not what Trump is about. He and his cronies are literally looting American on behalf of the few at the expense of the rest of us. But it is what these new voices are promoting...and the best of them are going further.

They are saying let's prepare for 21st C. challenges, let's understand how America can compete in a world of rapid technological change, let's understand how we can continue to lead in this new world. They are looking for new ideas to address new problems--like a Green New Deal.

Charts that show Democratic leaders skewing "leftward" mislead. They are actually skewing forward, leaning in the direction of what the people want and the country needs. Labels like left and right are meaningless in times like these.

The more meaningful descriptions are "right" and "wrong", "compassionate" and "self-serving", "innovative" and "reactionary." The GOP is seeking to turn the clock back to the Gordon Gekko 1980s. These new voices of Democratic Party leadership...

@KamalaHarris @SenWarren @BetoORourke @AOC and many many others are doing what Washington finds unthinkable: they are listening, not to big donors but to the rest of us, listening and caring and acting. What we are seeing is a sea-change.

The shift that Bill Clinton led toward a Third Way, which was really a tack towards Reaganism, which I was part of as a member of the Clinton Administration, led us in the wrong direction. The Democratic Party largely lost its way.

There were good points--healthcare reform, environmental reform from the Obama team--and they were much better than the alternatives--but they were compromised as well by efforts to dance to big money's tune. With some luck, that era of selling out is coming to an end.

We need a new social contract in America. We need an America that works for everyone even as everyone works for America. We need an America that is as good as it is great. And for the first time in many years, it seems we may just have the will and the vision to get there.

https://twitter.com/djrothkopf
 

daveza

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
47,671
He's the frigging president of the United States, are we asking too much for him to be able to spell English words ?

And no, MBB doesn't have enough pages to list everything else he can be faulted on - starting with insulting his own country's intelligence agency.
 

Whright

Expert Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2017
Messages
2,273
He's the frigging president of the United States, are we asking too much for him to be able to spell English words ?

And no, MBB doesn't have enough pages to list everything else he can be faulted on - starting with insulting his own country's intelligence agency.

The only thing one could insult/fault the Donald Trump for is, being non PC, and calling a spade a spade. However is there anything wrong with that??????
 

cerebus

Honorary Master
Joined
Nov 5, 2007
Messages
49,122
What’s really funny, is the fact that the media and Gillette snowflakes can only use gramma or spelling mistakes that he makes to fault him on.

That and the fact that he wants to literally schedule a national emergency in 3 weeks so he can get his wall funded, because he didn't cause the country enough pain when he allowed 800000 federal workers miss 2 paychecks when he allowed the shutdown to go on for nearly twice as long as the previous record then caved but won't admit he caved.
 
Last edited:

daveza

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 5, 2004
Messages
47,671
The only thing one could insult/fault the Donald Trump for is, being non PC, and calling a spade a spade. However is there anything wrong with that??????

Yup, 'cos what he calls a spade is usually an egg or a shoe-box.

Short version, he's a pathological narcissistic liar.
 

Bundu

Expert Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2011
Messages
3,421
The only thing one could insult/fault the Donald Trump for is, being non PC, and calling a spade a spade. However is there anything wrong with that??????
you have overlooked so many other issues - he's your type of guy?
 

OrbitalDawn

Ulysses Everett McGill
Joined
Aug 26, 2011
Messages
47,031
Rank 1 and two overall, Reagan (a GOP demigod) only comes in at 3. What i will note however is that Trump has 1 in manufacturing jobs which was a campaign promise of his.

Even that has little to do with him and more with recovery continuing. In fact, he's actually hampering it being better, because his tariffs are hitting export-focused companies, which are the ones adding jobs. The ones his tariffs are protecting aren't, really.

Trump’s tariffs didn’t bring back all those factory jobs he promised
 

Unhappy438

Honorary Master
Joined
May 25, 2011
Messages
24,915
What’s really funny, is the fact that the media and Gillette snowflakes can only use gramma or spelling mistakes that he makes to fault him on.

Bwahaha did a razor advert cause you severe distress? :ROFL:
 

Temujin

Honorary Master
Joined
Apr 18, 2015
Messages
18,312
That and the fact that he wants to literally schedule a national emergency in 3 weeks so he can get his wall funded, because he didn't cause the country enough pain when he allowed 800000 federal workers miss 2 paychecks when he allowed the shutdown to go on for nearly twice as long as the previous record then caved but won't admit he caved.
Dems refuse to support in senate, and block in congress, throwing toys out cot cos 'orange man bad' need to hold country to ransom until we get our way whaaaaaa... conclusion... trumps fault:rolleyes: farkin libtards:ROFL:
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top