Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[Temujin]

Well then, if you don’t mind me asking, one liberal leftie to another, what liberal principles fit you comfortably?

EDIT: Damn your ninja edits. Water slides. Obviously. They must be water slides.

Just so you know, not not responding... turning out to be rather lengthy, a 'wall' so to speak as decided to give a full breakdown of my views, and what I see is wrong

 

[Cray]

I feel awful pointing this out... kinda like Ted dunking on the hitchhiker when he asks about 6 minute abs in There's Something About Mary... but don't you think they could get to the top of the wall, then just pull the ladder up and put it down on the other side?

Or you know, just buy two ladders....

 

[cerebus]

You mean like the 97% confidence that Hillary was going to win last time?

Till the results are (mostly) in, you can't really say.

You can't, but expecting him to 'decimate' the elections is extremely optimistic given his miserable midterm performance and the shutdown debacle.

 

[surface]

Do you honestly think that's going to happen?

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...s-say-they-have-no-confidence-at-all-in-trump

I hope not. But Sarah has already said DT is God's will - you never know with Bible thumping majority over there.

 

[greg0205]

Just so you know, not not responding... turning out to be rather lengthy, a 'wall' so to speak as decided to give a full breakdown of my views, and what I see is wrong

Roger that

 

[cerebus]

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000168-a0cb-d2f5-a7eb-a6df46da0001

The Special Counsel’s office said in a court filing Wednesday that 1,000 sensitive files handed over during discovery to defense lawyers for the Russian company Concord Management—which is charged with financing interference efforts in the 2016 presidential election—were subsequently altered and released online “as part of a disinformation campaign aimed (apparently) at discrediting ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the U.S. political system.” The filing comes as part of Mueller’s effort to continue to restrict access to documents in the case against Concord, which has asked the court to allow it to share thousands of sensitive digital documents with company officers in Russia.

 

[greg0205]

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000168-a0cb-d2f5-a7eb-a6df46da0001

The Special Counsel’s office said in a court filing Wednesday that 1,000 sensitive files handed over during discovery to defense lawyers for the Russian company Concord Management—which is charged with financing interference efforts in the 2016 presidential election—were subsequently altered and released online “as part of a disinformation campaign aimed (apparently) at discrediting ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the U.S. political system.” The filing comes as part of Mueller’s effort to continue to restrict access to documents in the case against Concord, which has asked the court to allow it to share thousands of sensitive digital documents with company officers in Russia.

So, you're saying tre45on is trying to discredit the SCO's Trump/Russia investigation *and* Russians are trying to discredit the SCO's Trump/Russia investigation... Well, I guess there's no collusion to see here, and we can all go home.

 

[Eniigma]

You can't, but expecting him to 'decimate' the elections is extremely optimistic given his miserable midterm performance and the shutdown debacle.

Didn't Clinton and Obama have even worse mid-term results though and still got a second term?

A legit queston, not trying to deflect or do whataboutisms. I saw something about that after the mid-terms, and I now take pretty much every "fact" and claim with a massive dose of salt, which would indicate that if true the mid-terms are also not really that indicative. It seems almost like it comes down to who the opposition candidate is and how much of a devil-you-know tollerance there is.

I think if the Dem candidate was someone like Warren, then he might "decimate" her, but someone else it may be a lot closer.

 

[greg0205]

Didn't Clinton and Obama have even worse mid-term results though and still got a second term?

A legit queston, not trying to deflect or do whataboutisms. I saw something about that after the mid-terms, and I now take pretty much every "fact" and claim with a massive dose of salt, which would indicate that if true the mid-terms are also not really that indicative. It seems almost like it comes down to who the opposition candidate is and how much of a devil-you-know tollerance there is.

I think if the Dem candidate was someone like Warren, then he might "decimate" her, but someone else it may be a lot closer.

Polls had Obama in the high 50s and Clinton in the low 60s when elections rolled around. You know who's polling was in the 30s and 40s when second term elections came up? Carter and Bush Snr.

Obama was basically scandal free, unless you count tan suits and Dijon Mustard. Clinton was impeached in his second term, so you can't really use that as an apples for apples comparison for what seems probable with Trump this year.

SDNY investigators have him as an unindicted co-conspirator in election fraud with Michael Cohen who is going to prison for three years 'cos he's not protected by the office of the president.

His foundation is in trouble. His businesses are in trouble. His family is in trouble... We've really never seen anything like Donnie Treason in the Oval Office. Ever.

But

The Muller report is going to be a game changer, one way or another.

Right now, he'd be the presumptive candidate... After the Mueller report, it's not even certain he won't be primaried for 2020... And that assumes his polling holds if Dems impeach, and he can find enough in the Mueller report to convince nineteen of the twenty one Republican Senators who will also be up for election not to convict him.

 

[Eniigma]

We've really never seen anything like Donnie Treason in the Oval Office. Ever.

Admittedly I'm late to the party, never followed the other threads.. so what's this treason he's apparently guilty of judging by your posts?

 

[greg0205]

Admittedly I'm late to the party, never followed the other threads.. so what's this treason he's apparently guilty of judging by your posts?

Don't mind me. I've already been through this with Emjay, and you'll find I call him Donnie Treason, Donnie Tantrum, Mango Mussolini, tre45on or some such all the time... Possibly because I think he conspired with Vlad to steal the election and he's been quoing that quid ever since.

 

[TysonRoux]

Don't mind me. I've already been through this with Emjay, and you'll find I call him Donnie Treason, Donnie Tantrum, Mango Mussolini, tre45on or some such all the time... Possibly because I think he conspired with Vlad to steal the election and he's been quoing that quid ever since.

What about "Raccoon Boy".

Barbra Streisand: Trump ‘looks like a raccoon in a tanning bed’

 

[greg0205]

What about "Raccoon Boy".

Barbra Streisand: Trump ‘looks like a raccoon in a tanning bed’

Good. But I reserve my corn burns for Jacob Wohl.

 

[greg0205]

I guess any cover Republicans thought they could get with "steel slats" or "barriers" in border funding negotiations just got blown up.

Donald J. Trump‏
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Lets just call them WALLS from now on and stop playing political games! A WALL is a WALL!

2:16 PM - 31 Jan 2019

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1090947003868213248

 

[Nick333]

Do you honestly think that's going to happen?

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...s-say-they-have-no-confidence-at-all-in-trump

You're citing poll results, really?

 

[Lucas Buck]

That didn't take long:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/empire-star-jussie-smollett-hospitalized-after-homophobic-attack-tmz

It's starting to look like he may have been lying about the events of that night.

 

[Unhappy438]

You're citing poll results, really?

They were generally spot on for the midterms, polls still have their place if done right. What do you disagree with specifically about that poll?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

You mean like the 97% confidence that Hillary was going to win last time?

Till the results are (mostly) in, you can't really say.

You're citing poll results, really?

Have you ever looked at the actual polls instead of this boilerplate retort about an election prediction confidence level (which is not a poll)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natio..._the_2016_United_States_presidential_election

They were consistently very close, and within the margin of error.

Added to which, they were again very accurate in the mid-terms last year.

Didn't Clinton and Obama have even worse mid-term results though and still got a second term?

A legit queston, not trying to deflect or do whataboutisms. I saw something about that after the mid-terms, and I now take pretty much every "fact" and claim with a massive dose of salt, which would indicate that if true the mid-terms are also not really that indicative. It seems almost like it comes down to who the opposition candidate is and how much of a devil-you-know tollerance there is.

Most presidents' parties take a bit of a knock in the mid-term, but Trump very explicitly made the election about him and his wall... and it led to a blue wave and record defeat for the GOP.

At the same time, most presidents get re-elected because incumbency bonus is huge, and GOP presidents benefit from gerrymandered maps, voter suppression

But yeah, any 2020 polling at this point is fairly meaningless because we're so far out and the Dem ticket will be big.

What's also different to other presidents is that Trump is extraordinarily unpopular for a President with a generally healthy economy. That's by and large what hits presidents hardest (even though in a big way they don't have that much sway over it). He's the least popular president on record over this time period.

I think if the Dem candidate was someone like Warren, then he might "decimate" her, but someone else it may be a lot closer.

Why Warren specifically?

 

[OrbitalDawn]

No actually, just cos I don't agree with the feels hurt outrage twittard msm mob, and agree with eg 'wall', doesn't mean 'trump supporter'. As mentioned many times, I don't support him, guys an idiot, moron etc etc... however, the one thing that grinds my tits more than him is this 'new outrage left' thats popped up(ie the people who convulse and outrage everytime he tweets something, ie, a normal day in threads like this)... I'm basically what the left was a few years ago. I'm a lefty liberal, but I sure as fark ain't anything even close to whatever the fark this outrage machine mob is, what the left has become. And as said before, I'd rather be labelled a far right nazi racist than ever be associated with them

Yeah, man. Totally. You don't like the 'new outrage left', which is why you're happy to side with the people who get outraged by football players not standing for the anthem, Gillette ads, and people who say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas'.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

I guess any cover Republicans thought they could get with "steel slats" or "barriers" in border funding negotiations just got blown up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1090947003868213248

Kellyanne Conway last week: “I’m asking why you and the polling questions, respectfully, are still saying ‘wall’ when the president said you can call it whatever you want.”