Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

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Unhappy438

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This makes no sense. You want to include the number of illegals who did not get in to arrive at the total of illegals who did get in?

So if 20000 people attend a concert in person, you are saying that attendance should actually be stated at 100000 because 80000 tried to but failed to buy tickets?

Cmon.

Dont worry about Narrow, hes not a very smart bloke.
 

theratman

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Dont worry about Narrow, hes not a very smart bloke.
Think he's missed the point? What I think NBFTW was saying was you measure by attempted numbers. So 1000 tried to get over the wall while 500 tried to use planes. Gives you an indication of which is the most popular method of illegal immigration for that period.
 

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Think he's missed the point? What I think NBFTW was saying was you measure by attempted numbers. So 1000 tried to get over the wall while 500 tried to use planes. Gives you an indication of which is the most popular method of illegal immigration for that period.

Expressed mathematically as: I = (B+S)

Where "I" is the number of immigrants in the States, "B" is the number of folk who have actually crossed the border into the States, and "S" is the number of folk down the barra watching Motagua play Platense at soccer in the Liga Nacional.
 

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/facepalm
NO

the number that people LOVE to quote about illegals arriving by plane rather than on foot is more often than not (read, always) a number of illegals that are actually on US soil i.e. they "made it"

to conclude that most arrive by plane in general is the epitome of stupidity, those who were denied entry must be combined with those who were granted entry in order to determine whether the majority of the entire group tried the "wall" vs the "plane"
I agree with you on the plane nonsense. It is a little far fetched.

I think they actually arrive by bus at border crossings, get a visa and then stay illegally.

Btw I still don't understand what you are saying. It is just word salad and unclear.
 

AlmightyBender

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Bruv, is it easier to just walk across a border line with no impedance at all, or would it be easier with a huge wall.

Example: you have 3 kids aged between 6 months old and 3 years old with you, 5 women and 2 old age pensioners as well. Would all of you rather have to try climb huge wall, or just gracefully stroll across?

If the above does not make any logical sense.

Does a huge wall add at least some sort of prevention / difficulty to cross.

Totally agree, it makes it harder. But certainly not impossible or even that difficult. So as Greg pointed out a waste of money.

So let's deal with the scenario you have put forward. You certainly could build that wall to delay the three rapist kids and two MS-13 pensioners :p
Once they cross you would then still need to detect them and intercept them to arrest them.

Now what Dems and most of us are proposing is rather put a drone fleet in the air (much cheaper), use some AI to detect images of humans and their heat. Once detected you just send out a truck to pick them up. Easy peasy. No wall needed.

PS my jokes are not related to what we are talking about. I just could not resist to point out trump's fantasy Vs your very rational view of what is actually happening and who tries to enter that way.
 

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Totally agree, it makes it harder. But certainly not impossible or even that difficult. So as Greg pointed out a waste of money.

So let's deal with the scenario you have put forward. You certainly could build that wall to delay the three rapist kids and two MS-13 pensioners :p
Once they cross you would then still need to detect them and intercept them to arrest them.

Now what Dems and most of us are proposing is rather put a drone fleet in the air (much cheaper), use some AI to detect images of humans and their heat. Once detected you just send out a truck to pick them up. Easy peasy. No wall needed.

PS my jokes are not related to what we are talking about. I just could not resist to point out trump's fantasy Vs your very rational view of what is actually happening and who tries to enter that way.
i think the idea is to keep them out, not to manage them once in.
but hey, for even much cheaper - a mine field
 

AlmightyBender

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i think the idea is to keep them out, not to manage them once in.
but hey, for even much cheaper - a mine field
I think the point you are ignoring is that barriers are ineffective at keeping them out so we are suggesting t0he most effective solution to deal with the problem holistically.

I know you are joking, I hope, but good job on advocating killing of children and pensioners :thumbsup:

/Queue virtue signal rabble rabble rabble
 

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Lol, Trump derangment syndrome is making people believe that physical barriers are ineffective at keeping people out. This is pure gold:ROFL:
 

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Lol, Trump derangment syndrome is making people believe that physical barriers are ineffective at keeping people out. This is pure gold:ROFL:

it's only 'gold' until you realize there are cheaper electronic options
 

Techne

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it's only 'gold' until you realize there are cheaper electronic options
Well damn, time to tear down the walls of the world and no need for new ones because.... cheap electronic options:laugh::ROFL:
 

ToxicBunny

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Yeah I don't see msm begging for anything there actually...
 

OrbitalDawn

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I think she lost a lot of credibility with the whole Kavanaugh fiasco and then her (stupidly small %) Native American claim and the chringe worthy twitter video she did with being down to earth and drinking beer. Though all that said maybe she does stand a chance. I mean look at that batshit crazy AOC and how well she did.

Who would she have lost credibility with that would already not have voted for her?

Please tell me you are not being serious?

If you are I think there is no hope for us to ever agree on this, I simply cannot fathom how you can arrive at that reasoning. We'll never be on the same page, heck we're not even reading from the same book in that case.

I'm not going to go into the reasoning behind it. There is enough evidence out there for me to be happy with my conclusions around her. If they evidence shows you something else, so be it.

But please I beg of you, for the love of all that is holy tell me that you’re pulling my leg with that statement?

What a weird post. You won't explain why you think this, or provide any evidence for it, and we're just supposed to accept it as reasonable?

Yip, now you know why I only having just over a thousand posts despite being here since 2006.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words and well gregs response actaully perfectly sums up the EQ and IQ levels of most of these lefties/ liberals/ whatever the correct non-derogatory term for them is this month. No point discussing with someone when that's the level of response.

Is this one of those posts with zero self-awareness? :)

You and Emjay would be crying endless tears about the 'intolerant left' if anyone here called Trump supporters/conservatives stupid like you just did.

"#TaxationisTheft", now about that Border wall...

It's certainly exposed some faux-libertarians around these parts and elsewhere. Seizing private property (possible through military means), imposing more insanely wasteful government spending is now a-okay. :)
 

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Out of curiosity, which news organisation are not fake news? What news would you trust?
Not trying to debate here I'm just interested in your view.

Techne used to post somewhat seriously, now he's just trolling endlessly. Bit odd.
 
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