Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[scudsucker]

Sounds like you are a little jelly there, scud?

Even if I thought he was telling the truth about that fairly insignificant detail, no. Not even a little bit.

 

[theratman]

Sounds like you are a little jelly there, scud?

Just jelly of the hair. Lime green jelly.

 

[AlmightyBender]

@AlmightyBender

Remember how you were asking me about how I'm not bothered about Trump's associates and his picking habits? That's a long video, but I think it will help you to understand the other side of the coin if you watch it. The TL : DR is that institutions become corrupt during periods of decadence because the primary motivation of the people in those institutions becomes self-preservation rather than serving the purpose the institutions purports to carry out. The example in the video is how when a company becomes insolvent, the directors of the company will choose to hide that fact from shareholders while they make sure that they can get out in once piece.

Basically, I think that we're in such a period of decadence, and that means that this sort of corruption is inevitable. But its the maverick outsiders who are more likely to give the populace the unvarnished truth. And you can see some of that in Trump in the way he just flat-out says that the US won't leave Syria because of Israel or how they want Venezuelan oil and so forth.

Na dude you can't have it both ways. You admitted a few posts ago that Donnie lies on purpose to score points. (Sidebar: how you think this is ok or acceptable of anybody is beyond me)

Now he gives unvarnished truths?

Those two are mutually exclusive. The biggest problem is credibility. He might throw in some truths but as a rational being all that is destroyed through all the lies. Means I can't trust a single thing he says without significant investment in verification. In every other part of society people like this are requested to fek off.

Anyway, to your point my straw man of it would be:
So if the times are decadent then corruption and evil are inevitable so when it happens I don't have a problem with it.

I'm sorry but that is just not a value system that I could ever accept as being acceptable or useful. My judgement is that competence in character evaluation should be required of a leader in any context and any time.

 

[TysonRoux]

Is the wall closing in?

New York federal prosecutors seek interviews with Trump Organization executives

Federal prosecutors in New York have requested interviews in recent weeks with executives at the Trump Organization, according to people familiar with the matter, signaling a growing potential threat to President Donald Trump and those in his orbit from criminal investigations by the Manhattan US Attorney's office.
Trump and his legal team have long harbored concerns that investigations by New York federal prosecutors -- which could last throughout his presidency -- may ultimately pose more danger to him, his family and his allies than the inquiry by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to people close to Trump. Prosecutors' recent interest in executives at Trump's family company may intensify those fears.
The specific inquiry or topics of interest by prosecutors in any interviews with Trump Organization executives wasn't immediately clear. The sources were not authorized to speak on the record. A spokesperson for the company didn't respond to a request for comment.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Oh Jesus. Here comes Another Caravan.

Can anyone make out the details between the slurring and the sniffing and the hissing?

 

[Techne]

Aaw, that is so nice. Cheap labour all the way from Honduras to build the wall. A win win situation. Once they have completed the wall they will have valuable skills to help them rebuild their own country.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Na dude you can't have it both ways. You admitted a few posts ago that Donnie lies on purpose to score points. (Sidebar: how you think this is ok or acceptable of anybody is beyond me)

Now he gives unvarnished truths?

Those two are mutually exclusive.

No they aren't, I can certainly have my cake and eat it here. If he lies on purpose, then he is lying for a purpose. The implication is that he doesn't lie if he doesn't see the purpose in it. Trump is not an establishment candidate, he has no regard for the institutional lies that have been used in the past to sugar-coat American decisions, and so the truth tends to slip out in these situations cuz honestly thinking up a lie takes effort. This is one of the reasons that the elites abhor him.

The biggest problem is credibility. He might throw in some truths but as a rational being all that is destroyed through all the lies. Means I can't trust a single thing he says without significant investment in verification. In every other part of society people like this are requested to fek off.

Ah but this is one of Trump's selling points. First off, it's better to judge Trump by what he does than by what he says.

Secondly, you're right that he talks a lot of BS, but what we have now is an improvement over what we had during the Obama and Bush administrations. Both of them told absolutely brazen lies to get what they wanted, but with the media colluding with the establishment to create a veneer of respectability, people tended not to notice until it was too late. Turn to 2019 and people are starting to realise just how untrustworthy the media is. The only thing worse than being lied to is not knowing that you're being lied to. Trusting the wrong sources is how you sleep-walk into deadly peril.

Anyway, to your point my straw man of it would be:
So if the times are decadent then corruption and evil are inevitable so when it happens I don't have a problem with it.

Well, I have grown rather cynical over the years, it seems to me that this sort of corruption is basically a job requirement for anyone in politics. So it's basically a question of looking at what the corruption is and how much it's going to cost and factoring that into all the other consequences in the mix and sticking with the best choice, even if it smells like dung.

I'm sorry but that is just not a value system that I could ever accept as being acceptable or useful. My judgement is that competence in character evaluation should be required of a leader in any context and any time.

The value at play here is a simple one: trying to ensure humanity does not cause its own extinction.

Here's a more lefty take on the situation, although you may not agree with my characterisation:

 

[rietrot]

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-05/watch-live-president-trump-delivers-state-union-address

A good summary of Trump MAGA.

 

[cerebus]

Oh Jesus. Here comes Another Caravan.

Can anyone make out the details between the slurring and the sniffing and the hissing?

I'm telling you he's got some kind of a drug problem. I don't know why more people aren't talking about it. I noticed it when he was debating HRC and he was stalking her and constantly sniffing.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

I'm telling you he's got some kind of a drug problem. I don't know why more people aren't talking about it. I noticed it when he was debating HRC and he was stalking her and constantly sniffing.

I've been reading several expositions of professionals who believe that it's frontotemporal dementia.

 

[cerebus]

I've been reading several expositions of professionals who believe that it's frontotemporal dementia.

The sniffing and the hissing? Ok maybe I guess

 

[cerebus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1092983252372074496

 

[Unhappy438]

I've been reading several expositions of professionals who believe that it's frontotemporal dementia.

Or just allergies.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Or just allergies.

Signs and Symptoms of Frontotemporal Dementia

• Poor judgment.
• Loss of empathy.
• Socially inappropriate behavior.
• Lack of inhibition.
• Repetitive compulsive behavior.
• Inability to concentrate or plan.
• Frequent, abrupt mood changes.
• Speech difficulties.

 

[Unhappy438]

Signs and Symptoms of Frontotemporal Dementia

• Poor judgment.
• Loss of empathy.
• Socially inappropriate behavior.
• Lack of inhibition.
• Repetitive compulsive behavior.
• Inability to concentrate or plan.
• Frequent, abrupt mood changes.
• Speech difficulties.

If you go back in time hes always had many of these traits, which would mean his dementia would be far further along. Besides how much of his behavior is an act? He is a showman after all and his speech and behavior is very much constructed to communicate with his base.

 

[Aquila ka Hecate]

If you go back in time hes always had many of these traits, which would mean his dementia would be far further along. Besides how much of his behavior is an act? He is a showman after all and his speech and behavior is very much constructed to communicate with his base.

Beg to differ about always having had many of these traits. He seems like a different person 10 - even 5 - years ago.

But his speech does appear to be deteriorating. Dropping entire syllables wasn't a habit of his only a few years ago. Neither was word-salad rambling.

Me, I don't know. I'm not a medical person. Just mentioning it.

 

[cerebus]

If you go back in time hes always had many of these traits

Has he? Do you have footage or something? He doesn't do it in his old interviews. He wasn't even always this bad on the campaign trail.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

I'm telling you he's got some kind of a drug problem. I don't know why more people aren't talking about it. I noticed it when he was debating HRC and he was stalking her and constantly sniffing.

and yet all was fine when Hildebeast had her multiple robot seizures on live television?

 

[Unhappy438]

Beg to differ about always having had many of these traits. He seems like a different person 10 - even 5 - years ago.

I beg to differ based on his twitter alone, which is similar. Thing is though we are all somewhat different from 5-10 years ago, experiences change us and Trump will be no different. Just look at the changes in Obama.

But his speech does appear to be deteriorating. Dropping entire syllables wasn't a habit of his only a few years ago. Neither was word-salad rambling.

Yeah im sorry but it really was.

Me, I don't know. I'm not a medical person. Just mentioning it.

Neither am i but i see little reason to speculate when there are far simpler explanations.

 

[greg0205]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1092983252372074496

The best comment I’ve seen for that clip...

“Arya Stark claps at people on her list like that.”