Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

Emjay

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Wow. So many reports on potential ethics violations, and pretty much all on the same day. Now who does that remind us of? Oh, yes, Biden, our good moderate 2020 candidate. :laugh:

I cannot take MSM seriously at all these days. It's a bloody joke.
 

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Wow. So many reports on potential ethics violations, and pretty much all on the same day. Now who does that remind us of? Oh, yes, Biden, our good moderate 2020 candidate. :laugh:

I cannot take MSM seriously at all these days. It's a bloody joke.
Are you claiming the events in those links did not happen? Are you claiming that they are making these things up?Ignore the opinion and analysis and address the factual events for a change.
 

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“Unless you give Congress our pay increase, we’ll keep making money through illicit means.”

Classic coming from a Democratic Socialist. Being in the top 5% is not good enough.
$174k 'minimum' isn't enough for her... no different to the parasites here, all millionaires, still get all their cars, petrol, mansions etc free, still bitch about it:ROFL:
But hey, $4k increase will stop people taking millions, sure thing:thumbsup:
 
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Are you claiming the events in those links did not happen? Are you claiming that they are making these things up?Ignore the opinion and analysis and address the factual events for a change.
No, she's whatabouting with Joe Biden's allegations of corruption. Apparently if the media don't devote equal amounts of time to unsubstantiated rumors being pushed by the Trump camp, it means they're a bloody joke and any real corruption can be conveniently ignored.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/
 

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No, she's whatabouting with Joe Biden's allegations of corruption. Apparently if the media don't devote equal amounts of time to unsubstantiated rumors being pushed by the Trump camp, it means they're a bloody joke and any real corruption can be conveniently ignored.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/
What she doesn't seem to realize is that the reporter and media house who could conclusively show that Biden had in fact done this for this reason would win every award and get a ton of money. It would be the holy grail. So you bet they all looked into it. These people (journalists) hold zero loyalty to anybody IF THE STORY IS TRUE AND CREDIBLE AND MEETS JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS.
 

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What she doesn't seem to realize is that the reporter and media house who could conclusively show that Biden had in fact done this for this reason would win every award and get a ton of money. It would be the holy grail. So you bet they all looked into it. These people (journalists) hold zero loyalty to anybody IF THE STORY IS TRUE AND CREDIBLE AND MEETS JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS.
The truth, Kaleniuk said, is that Shokin was forced from office at Biden’s urging because he had failed to conduct thorough investigations of corruption, and had stifled efforts to investigate embezzlement and misconduct by public officials following the 2014 uprising.
The core facts aren't really disputed by anyone. What business did Biden have to threaten a country to fire a prosecutor who was looking into the activities of his son?

We don't need a medal, we can see the patently dishonest media everywhere. If Trump had done what Biden had done, and it came out, we would have had the impeachment hearing years ago.

Moenie kak praat nie.
 

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The core facts aren't really disputed by anyone. What business did Biden have to threaten a country to fire a prosecutor who was looking into the activities of his son?

We don't need a medal, we can see the patently dishonest media everywhere. If Trump had done what Biden had done, and it came out, we would have had the impeachment hearing years ago.

Moenie kak praat nie.
And again you only focus on the part you want. You are ignoring the sequence of events that lead up to that. Actually he insisted on it because the prosecutor wasn't doing enough to prosecute his own son (using poetic licence here). Did the investigation into that company go away? No.

And yet again you are distracting from the swampyness (one of many examples on both sides) in the USA that Cerebus brought up. Can we not discuss that in isolation without any whatabouts just for once?
 

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And again you only focus on the part you want. You are ignoring the sequence of events that lead up to that. Actually he insisted on it because the prosecutor wasn't doing enough to prosecute his own son (using poetic licence here). Did the investigation into that company go away? No.

And yet again you are distracting from the swampyness (one of many examples on both sides) in the USA that Cerebus brought up. Can we not discuss that in isolation without any whatabouts just for once?
I've no problem to talk about corruption on the left, if it exists. But this Biden story is a total nothingburger. The journalists who looked into it came up empty, and it's perfectly obvious that it is just meant to deflect from the rampant corruption and looting that's going on in Trump's administration, not to mention the Mueller Report.

The Chao/McConnell story is legitimately bad. Chao set up special lanes in the Department of Transportation to funnel around $78mil to her husband's reelection campaign.

But you know what's a real scandal? AOC talking about the problem of dark money in politics, which obviously means she's threatening to take dark money illicitly if she doesn't get paid enough.
 

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And again you only focus on the part you want. You are ignoring the sequence of events that lead up to that. Actually he insisted on it because the prosecutor wasn't doing enough to prosecute his own son (using poetic licence here). Did the investigation into that company go away? No.
Lol, "poetic license". The dishonesty of the media can be entirely captured by stating that they only focus on the part of the story they want. In fact, the entire Trump nothingburger Russiagate story can be encapsulated by that one maxim.

Just imagine for a second if Comey was heading an investigation into a company Trump jr. worked at when Trump fired him...

And yet again you are distracting from the swampyness (one of many examples on both sides) in the USA that Cerebus brought up. Can we not discuss that in isolation without any whatabouts just for once?
No, what I am doing is reacting with annoyance at your minimisation of a real problem that Emjay actually brought up, suggesting that she's just doing it to divert attention away from corruption on one side of the aisle.
 

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Lol, "poetic license". The dishonesty of the media can be entirely captured by stating that they only focus on the part of the story they want. In fact, the entire Trump nothingburger Russiagate story can be encapsulated by that one maxim.

Just imagine for a second if Comey was heading an investigation into a company Trump jr. worked at when Trump fired him...


No, what I am doing is reacting with annoyance at your minimisation of a real problem that Emjay actually brought up, suggesting that she's just doing it to divert attention away from corruption on one side of the aisle.
Fine it is a huge issue, lets go investigate it further and come up with some concrete evidence and then we can take it further ok? Pretty sure the justice department is under Republican control so can't imagine what might be holding them back.

Also noticed you edit there about Comey... well you must have realised that that is exactly what Trump did lol
Comey was investigating Trump and the Trump organisation and his son directly, and guess what he did... fired him. Honk Honk right?
 

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No, she's whatabouting with Joe Biden's allegations of corruption. Apparently if the media don't devote equal amounts of time to unsubstantiated rumors being pushed by the Trump camp, it means they're a bloody joke and any real corruption can be conveniently ignored.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-absolute-nonsense-reformer-says/
Yes, just "rumours". His family didn't make money from China at all. Nothing to see here folks. Move along. :rolleyes:

What she doesn't seem to realize is that the reporter and media house who could conclusively show that Biden had in fact done this for this reason would win every award and get a ton of money. It would be the holy grail. So you bet they all looked into it. These people (journalists) hold zero loyalty to anybody IF THE STORY IS TRUE AND CREDIBLE AND MEETS JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS.
If only we had a precedent.

Oh, but wait, we do!

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/media-intentionally-hid-damaging-info/

"Journalistic Standards". :ROFL:

When journalists are taught to be activists, there are no longer journalistic standards. Those standards disappeared when the media became heavily biased. And, so we are clear, this applies to BOTH sides.
 

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Fine it is a huge issue, lets go investigate it further and come up with some concrete evidence and then we can take it further ok? Pretty sure the justice department is under Republican control so can't imagine what might be holding them back.
The deep state is. The FISA court has been abused for years, and the abuse became routine. In fact, from what I understand, the feds weren't even prosecuting FARA violations because they found it more valuable to use the violations as a pretext for FISA warrants. Apparently this kind of thing was very profitable from an industrial espionage perspective...

You just have to dig into what it was that Flynn uncovered that made the Obama administration want to excommunicate him to realise that this issue is a hell of a lot bigger than Donald J Trump. So you've got a lot of very very powerful people that are very very nervous, and in that situation you have to tread carefully.

Also noticed you edit there about Comey... well you must have realised that that is exactly what Trump did lol
Comey was investigating Trump and the Trump organisation and his son directly, and guess what he did... fired him. Honk Honk right?
So in other words, it would be reasonable to expect a special council to look into Biden's activities, like with Trump? :sneaky:
 

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Yes, just "rumours". His family didn't make money from China at all. Nothing to see here folks. Move long. :rolleyes:
Aaaaaannnndd?? A lot of people make money from China Emjay. It's kind of where everything gets made. You can't just endlessly insinuate stuff. The standard of proof has got to be higher.
 

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Aaaaaannnndd?? A lot of people make money from China Emjay. It's kind of where everything gets made. You can't just endlessly insinuate stuff. The standard of proof has got to be higher.
So why can't Trump make money from Russia?
 
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