Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[Gingerbeardman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1158846043859148801

 

[cerebus]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6244879/Mazars-Justice-Department.pdf

The DOJ filed an amicus brief urging the appeals court to block the subpoena of Trump's records. It's disgraceful

 

[OrbitalDawn]

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6244879/Mazars-Justice-Department.pdf

The DOJ filed an amicus brief urging the appeals court to block the subpoena of Trump's records. It's disgraceful

Toadie Barr doing what he was hired to do - act like the President's personal lawyer. Disgraceful, indeed.

 

[cerebus]

Chicago has the strictest gun laws, don't they? Do you know how many people were shot in Chicago over the weekend? 53.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...-shootings-lawndale-douglas-park-gun-violence

I'm glad you read the article.

And this type of thing happens a lot. Second Amendment activists often point to Chicago, a city with rampant gun violence in a state that has some of the nation’s strongest gun laws. But most of the guns recovered in Chicago were purchased outside Illinois, in neighboring states with laxer laws, according to a 2017 report by the Chicago Mayor’s Office.

But at least according to Reeping’s analysis, the trend of more permissive laws being linked to more mass shootings is actually gaining momentum. Starting around 2010, the data begins really diverging—mass shooting rates dropped in states with restrictive laws as they accelerated in states with more lax ones.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Very good deep dive into Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp's racial voter intimidation efforts to help sway the gubernatorial election in his favour. Essentially one of the competitors also being the referee.

How a criminal investigation in Georgia set an ominous tone for African-American voters

 

[OrbitalDawn]

Montana man assaults child for not removing hat during national anthem, fractures kid's skull

Teach that kid right for not loving his country enough.

 

[cerebus]

Oh, look. Another tribal lefty getting a hardon over the prospect of blaming Trump for the shootings.

At least we are all sticking to our lanes, hey Orbital Dawn?

You're certainly sticking to yours, come hell or high water. You're so damn tribal you can't even bear to read New Yorker articles, speaking of sensitivity to ideas.

 

[cerebus]

Do you remember how you got that Right Wing Extremist thread deleted? That thread that had some very good content in it, which took a lot of time for some people to formulate good faith debates? You got that canned.

There was some good faith debating but from my memory after a point it mostly became an opportunity for Pitbull and nick to teabag on me relentlessly.

Now, you have gotten CountCrypto banned. I think your resilience is lower than you believe it to be.

I reported SS - I mean CC - a month back on the basis that he was flagrantly violating the forum rules against racism. Personally I have no issue reading his crap and I had him on ignore anyway, but the mods ultimately would have been the ones to decide what to do with him. They do need to keep a hard line against hate speech for the sake of the forum.

 

[cerebus]

https://gizmodo.com/8chan-owner-jim-watkins-facing-summons-to-testify-befor-1837017839

8chan has seemingly struggled to keep itself online since and its online community has splintered. Its founder, Fredrick Brennan, has called for it to be shut down. Now, its owner Jim Watkins is facing a call to testify before the House Homeland Security Committee and his company, N.T. Technology, may be facing serious trouble with Filipino authorities.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

The DOJ filed an amicus brief urging the appeals court to block the subpoena of Trump's records. It's disgraceful

disgraceful ... depending on the motive and justification that is

might even almost be as disgraceful as:
Lynch says DOJ will not pursue charges against Clinton

 

[rietrot]

https://www.wired.com/story/the-looser-a-states-gun-laws-the-more-mass-shootings-it-has/

Both Texas and Ohio, where the latest terror attacks were carried out, also scored high on gun law permissibility. In both states it’s legal to carry concealed weapons in public, provided the gun owner has the proper permits to own it. In Texas, permits are issued to applicants over the age of 21 who pass a four-to-six-hour training course and don’t have any pending criminal charges. According to Ohio’s gun laws, residents 21 years and older must complete an eight-hour training course, not be addicted to any controlled substances, and be able to pass a criminal background check.
Most relevant to the recent killings in El Paso and Dayton though, is the fact that the semi-automatic weapons used to carry out the attacks can be purchased legally. Only six states and the District of Columbia have enacted bans on these types of military-style firearms. Texas and Ohio are not among them. Both states also allow large-capacity magazines like those the gunmen in both El Paso and Dayton appear to have used to fire dozens of rounds in seconds without having to reload.

What is this nonsense of training and permits? I thought anyone can just buy a gun at Walmart and walk out with it fully loaded.

 

[rietrot]

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It's time for the right to start playing this same game, to keep balance in the overton window.

 

[STS]

It's time for the right to start playing this same game, to keep balance in the overton window.

But then they'll just be caving into cultural Marxism

 

[Zoomzoom]

https://gizmodo.com/8chan-owner-jim-watkins-facing-summons-to-testify-befor-1837017839

8chan has seemingly struggled to keep itself online since and its online community has splintered. Its founder, Fredrick Brennan, has called for it to be shut down. Now, its owner Jim Watkins is facing a call to testify before the House Homeland Security Committee and his company, N.T. Technology, may be facing serious trouble with Filipino authorities.

At which point does the right to free speech become unacceptable hate speech?

And does providing a platform for free speech which includes unacceptable speech at times (or a lot in the case of 8chan) constitute a crime in itself?

Personally I'm on the fence a little with this one. I am absolutely for the right to free speech. It is a fundamental and very important freedom that allows for robust debate and dissension with the government which is a cornerstone of a functional democracy.

However it is in these hate-filled echo chambers that people are encouraged in their worst beliefs and behaviours and that isn't OK either.

I'm glad I don't have to decide this one.

 

[Techne]

I reported SS - I mean CC - a month back on the basis that he was flagrantly violating the forum rules against racism. Personally I have no issue reading his crap and I had him on ignore anyway, but the mods ultimately would have been the ones to decide what to do with him. They do need to keep a hard line against hate speech for the sake of the forum.

Really disgusting hypocrisy that you report people for racism while you support racist ideas. Sick...

 

[rietrot]

But then they'll just be caving into cultural Marxism

Boycotting a woke business is as free market capitalism as it gets. It's always been a problem the the right don't stick to their principles, they are way to tolerant towards the real cultural marxism.

 

[rietrot]

At which point does the right to free speech become unacceptable hate speech?

And does providing a platform for free speech which includes unacceptable speech at times (or a lot in the case of 8chan) constitute a crime in itself?

Personally I'm on the fence a little with this one. I am absolutely for the right to free speech. It is a fundamental and very important freedom that allows for robust debate and dissension with the government which is a cornerstone of a functional democracy.

However it is in these hate-filled echo chambers that people are encouraged in their worst beliefs and behaviours and that isn't OK either.

I'm glad I don't have to decide this one.

Jip its like blaming the town square if some idiot gets on a sope box and incite violence. The town square isn't to blame. Only the actual person.

 

[Zoomzoom]

Jip its like blaming the town square if some idiot gets on a soap box and incite violence. The town square isn't to blame. Only the actual person.

It's not really the same though. It would be more comparable if the townsquare was only filled with people who shared the same beliefs and were also all shouting the same things at each other repeatedly. It isn't a giant leap to assume that at some point one or more of them are going to act on what they are saying. At which point it might be OK to say 'you can't gather in those groups and say that to each other'.

 

[buka001]

Du Bois being quoted again. Totes a coincedence, right Buka?

Yes, totally a coincidence in an article discussing the prevalence of white supremacy in the USA is going to mention a prominent African-American civil rights activist.

How dare we entertain the views of someone who chose to speak up against racism, lynching, Jim Crow laws and the discrimination that was instituted at many levels in American society.

But, because he was sympathetic to Marxism (eventhough he never voted for the Communist Party), all his discourse on racism, lynchings and inequality must be discounted.

Gee now where have I seen this tactic before? I am Nazi'ng the connection? Maybe you can help?

 

[rietrot]

It's not really the same though. It would be more comparable if the townsquare was only filled with people who shared the same beliefs and were also all shouting the same things at each other repeatedly. It isn't a giant leap to assume that at some point one or more of them are going to act on what they are saying. At which point it might be OK to say 'you can't gather in those groups and say that to each other'.

8chan wasn't just people that shared the same believes. It was open to anyone. You could have joined. There was no membership requirements.

It's mostly satire. They actually mocked people that got that serious and called it undercover fedtalk. As in a government agent trying to stir shît up.

The satire and dark humour might seem strange to some. But laughing about bad situations is quite common and many people deal with issues in this way.

It is however a problem that some people on all sides always tend to be violent or have violent outburst. Maybe because of a lack of a proper upbringing or whatever. I'm not against identifying people with proven violent tendencies and policing them in some way.