Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

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1) The guy was being arrested after multiple warnings of trespassing.
2) If you know anything about horses, you will know that you can only control them if you are actually on them. There isn't really anywhere else for them to put the suspect, even if they were waiting for proper transport.
3) This isn't any more humiliating than sitting in the back of a police car IMO.
 

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1968. After Du Bois died. He never experienced even a semblance of equality.

So, we need to discuss a man's lack of experiencing equality after Trump has been blamed for inciting a mass murderer, based on a movement that ended 51 years ago?
 

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1968. After Du Bois died. He never experienced even a semblance of equality.

Let's play guess the year when this picture was taken.

And yet, here we have people arguing about the validity of concerns about black people and race in America, back in 1920!

Cultural Marxism. Is all. No point discussing it, as our kids will become trans.
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Okay horseback cops exist to this day. Is this a normal way for them to arrest any person? Under simular circumstances will they escort a white guy like this?

Have you answered these questions before just loosing your mind because Nazis?
 

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1) The guy was being arrested after multiple warnings of trespassing.
2) If you know anything about horses, you will know that you can only control them if you are actually on them. There isn't really anywhere else for them to put the suspect, even if they were waiting for proper transport.
3) This isn't any more humiliating than sitting in the back of a police car IMO.

But the SYMBOLISIM. They wanted to drag the black man behind the horse.
 
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1) The guy was being arrested after multiple warnings of trespassing.
2) If you know anything about horses, you will know that you can only control them if you are actually on them. There isn't really anywhere else for them to put the suspect, even if they were waiting for proper transport.
3) This isn't any more humiliating than sitting in the back of a police car IMO.
Well he can hold the horse in one hand the guy in the other and hope the guy doesn't do anything stupid to scare the horse or try and run.


Honestly the black guy should just be glad to be alive.
 
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So, we need to discuss a man's lack of experiencing equality after Trump has been blamed for inciting a mass murderer, based on a movement that ended 51 years ago?
The article was about the history of white supremacy in America and how it is still prevalent today.

It talks about a critical juncture when black soldiers returned from wars, only to be prejudiced.

That is the context of what Du Bois had in that piece.

Xarog and you decide to invalidate the whole article because the guy was a Marxist. Nobody addresses the validity of Du Bois statements back in 1920 of what was happening in 1920.

Xarog has deflected several times to answer that question. Maybe because he agrees there was no problem?
 

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1) The guy was being arrested after multiple warnings of trespassing.
2) If you know anything about horses, you will know that you can only control them if you are actually on them. There isn't really anywhere else for them to put the suspect, even if they were waiting for proper transport.
3) This isn't any more humiliating than sitting in the back of a police car IMO.
We will talk when they arrest a white guy like this.
 

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The article was about the history of white supremacy in America and how it is still prevalent today.

It talks about a critical juncture when black soldiers returned from wars, only to be prejudiced.

That is the context of what Du Bois had in that piece.

Xarog and you decide to invalidate the whole article because the guy was a Marxist. Nobody addresses the validity of Du Bois statements back in 1920 of what was happening in 1920.

Xarog has deflected several times to answer that question. Maybe because he agrees there was no problem?
Ok, so to clarify, the civil rights act never happened, or at least we're supposed to argue as if this glaringly obvious fact is irrelevant/non-existant when examining the degree to which Du Bois' words are applicable to contemporary America.

Is that your final answer?
 

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And this is why it's impossible to take you or the media seriously.

IGAF if you take me seriously, the point stands. A literal invasion of your country by a foreign force is cause to take up guns. Concentration camps and institutional police racism are cause to protest and change the system of government.

And Trump HAS stirred up blatant and undeniable calls to violent action. Not goddam Toni Morrison saying that white people need to change which somehow means she's genocidal in your screwed-up head. Not people burning effigies of Trump, which is a common form of protest for centuries. He's stood there and told his followers to beat up a protester, and promised to pay their legal fees if they did.
 

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1968. After Du Bois died. He never experienced even a semblance of equality.

Let's play guess the year when this picture was taken.

And yet, here we have people arguing about the validity of concerns about black people and race in America, back in 1920!

Cultural Marxism. Is all. No point discussing it, as our kids will become trans.
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Could've chosen a better picture there. Also context of the actual picture needs explaining, I just see a guy who has been arrested by mounted police.
 

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The article was about the history of white supremacy in America and how it is still prevalent today.

It talks about a critical juncture when black soldiers returned from wars, only to be prejudiced.

That is the context of what Du Bois had in that piece.

Xarog and you decide to invalidate the whole article because the guy was a Marxist. Nobody addresses the validity of Du Bois statements back in 1920 of what was happening in 1920.

Xarog has deflected several times to answer that question. Maybe because he agrees there was no problem?
I don't know why you or he made it about black soldiers. It seems like all vets are having it difficult today. Just like back then they are expected to go back to their old life after they've been out of civilisation for a few years. Nothing much has changed and I don't see that it is or was particularly racist anymore than what was the norm at the time.
 

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IGAF if you take me seriously, the point stands. A literal invasion of your country by a foreign force is cause to take up guns. Concentration camps and institutional police racism are cause to protest and change the system of government.

And Trump HAS stirred up blatant and undeniable calls to violent action. Not goddam Toni Morrison saying that white people need to change which somehow means she's genocidal in your screwed-up head. Not people burning effigies of Trump, which is a common form of protest for centuries. He's stood there and told his followers to beat up a protester, and promised to pay their legal fees if they did.

RAGE. BOOOORRRRNNN TO RAAAAAAGE. Suggest you put on your theme song there, cerebus.

You undermine your own points when you cannot stick to a clear definition on language that is inciteful.
 

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We will talk when they arrest a white guy like this.
And for bonus points the guy on the horse is black.

I won't take a photo or make a scene of it if I see it happen. I will probably just laugh and think, fscking idiot.

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Ok, so to clarify, the civil rights act never happened, or at least we're supposed to argue as if this glaringly obvious fact is irrelevant/non-existant when examining the degree to which Du Bois' words are applicable to contemporary America.

Is that your final answer?
Jesus you are being dishonest to the point of blind absolution.

The article is about the historical prevalence of white supremacy in america. It talks about events in the past and tracks it through to contemporary issues.

In 1920'ish a civil rights activist penned an opinion relating to a contemporary issue of the time where black soldiers who had returned from war, were still treated as inferior people. This was used to illustrate a critical point in the rise of the civil rights movement where black people became less silent and more vocal of the prejudices they face because they questioned the validity of the prejudices they faced, because simply why could they fight and die for America in a foreign land as equals, but were not allowed to live in America as equals.

If I had told you the story of how the invention of the first stone tool led to the development of a plasma cutter and in thay story I mention that a pivotal point in the development of the plasma cutter was the use of mercury in the metallurgical process. You would now be telling me that since mercury is dangerous how can I be referring to this toxic chemical it does not make plasma cutting any different.

You are distracting from that specific context.

You are asking me to defend the authors alleged Cultural Marxism. Yet you have failed to show in the context of that quote what was Marxist about it and what was inherently wrong with his view about returning black soldiers? So I cannot defend something you haven't offered up for me to defend. The article traces a subject through history and mentions one of the steps through that path.

You have chosen not to look at that step, but take it out and place it in a context that neither the originator, the New Yorker author or myself have placed it and want me to defend that intellectually dishonest position.

And in parallel to that you lead a character assassination of the author based on a separate matter to the specific context of the quote.

So provide me an answer to these three questions -

Tell me what is wrong with voicing the concern that when black soldiers returned from WW1 and WW2 for that matter, they were still subjected to prejudice and segregation?

Within that statement, why is it Marxist?

Why should we ignore that statement?
 

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I don't know why you or he made it about black soldiers. It seems like all vets are having it difficult today. Just like back then they are expected to go back to their old life after they've been out of civilisation for a few years. Nothing much has changed and I don't see that it is or was particularly racist anymore than what was the norm at the time.
In 1919 and 1945, when white soldiers returned they could get any job they wanted, suitable to their experience etc. They could live anywhere they could afford. They could sit on any bench, sit on any seat in any bus they wanted to.

When black soldiers returned they could not. The law forbade them too.
 

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Those are demonstration videos?
Yes

They indicate it seems to be pretty standard for the arrest of a suspect for mounted police.

It also makes practical sense as you don't want to get off the horse and lead it as then it can get spooked (because horses are retarded animals) and run off.

Would you have preferred Red Dead Redemption style where they would hogtie a suspect and throw them over the back of the horse? ;)
 
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