Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[Emjay]

Do you not think moderation is necessary? Mods intervene when users go off the rails or blatantly break the rules of the forum. I think it's clear to everyone that that's what he was doing by openly proselytising for naziism.

I'm sorry but exactly the same things you accuse me of can be applied to you. And I'm not sure we do want the same things; for example if you had your way I'm sure abortion rights and immigration laws would be altered in a way that affects a lot of people's real lives, and Trump's agenda of fear and lies would continue unimpeded and unopposed. I actually think there are fundamental divergences between us and it's only superficially where our views aren't so different.

I don't think any moderation is necessary, except where it is in MyBB's interests as they are a business. I am sure that is their view too, but won't admit it.

You know with people like CountCrypto is that their views don't change, they just go elsewhere, and often that is underground, where they cannot be deradicalized or reasoned with in the open?

Yes, my posts have been very over the top and could have had more tact. I am fully aware of my content and what I say. I however came into these threads on the basis of good faith, and I got mocked and insulted after putting effort into my links and posts. Which is fine, I am perfectly comfortable mocking others.

You don't have an inkling of what I would support from an abortion or immigration perspective because I doubt you have paid any sort of attention to my abortion posts, and I have not really discussed immigration policy at all.

 

[konfab]

Sure, if we just took away gay activism, gay rights, gay parades, and gay marriage, there wouldn't be any issue with gays themselves.

Pretty much actually. You framing the problem like that indicates that you cannot think of gay people as individuals.

You protect individual rights, and *magically* you protect the actual rights of everyone. There shouldn't be gay rights, woman's rights, men's rights etc.

Except the modern left doesn't like this concept very much, because it means that their entire world view (class conflict) has no relevance.

 

[buka001]

Except I didn't say that.

Sure you didn't except the language of your post saying otherwise and then the caveat, capture all of blaming everything on the left.

I have a steelfixer who transitioned from male to female.

We also have a planner who transitioned many years ago and identifies as a women.

I cannot see what all the fuss is about. Honestly? They are not aliens, they have not forced anything on anyone.

 

[cerebus]

I don't think any moderation is necessary, except where it is in MyBB's interests as they are a business. I am sure that is their view too, but won't admit it.

You know with people like CountCrypto is that their views don't change, they just go elsewhere, and often that is underground, where they cannot be deradicalized or reasoned with?

I don't think people like him can be deradicalized or reasoned with, and I certainly didn't see you attempting to do anything of the sort. I think people like him come on with an agenda to try to radicalize others, and the hate that he was spewing has no place here.

Yes, my posts have been very over the top and could have had more tact. I am fully aware of my content and what I say. I however came into these threads on the basis of good faith, and I got mocked and insulted after putting effort into my links and posts.

Oh I can't do anything with tact. I appreciate frankness and transparency but you aren't big on that.

You don't have an inkling of what I would support from an abortion or immigration perspective because I doubt you have paid any sort of attention to my abortion posts, and I have not really discussed immigration policy at all.

I did however ask you in a very pointed way, multiple times, about your specific position on abortion and got ignored. So I'm not sure how else to interpret your meaning. It's bloody obvious where you stand on that, and your smirking and callousness towards Trump's treatment of immigrants also makes it quite apparent where you stand.

 

[buka001]

Pretty much actually. You framing the problem like that indicates that you cannot think of gay people as individuals.

You protect individual rights, and *magically* you protect the actual rights of everyone. There shouldn't be gay rights, woman's rights, men's rights etc.

Except the modern left doesn't like this concept very much, because it means that their entire world view (class conflict) has no relevance.

Without the respective gay rights movements the legitimate cause for concern that they had would never have received the attention they did in the respective courts and parliaments to push through legislative change.

Gay people would still be prejudiced, like they are in many countries, had there not been the protests and movements.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

In the Netherlands there also isn't a shrieking right wing media arm that breathlessly reports on every petty news story as though it's armageddon for conservatives.

was this a petty news story according to you btw?

Utrecht shooting: Suspect Tanis admits deadly tram attack

Turkish-born Gokmen Tanis says he acted alone in the killing of three people.

www.bbc.com

 

[cerebus]

Pretty much actually. You framing the problem like that indicates that you cannot think of gay people as individuals.

You protect individual rights, and *magically* you protect the actual rights of everyone. There shouldn't be gay rights, woman's rights, men's rights etc.

Except the modern left doesn't like this concept very much, because it means that their entire world view (class conflict) has no relevance.

Do you not think gays and trans people were ever discriminated against by law?

 

[cerebus]

was this a petty news story according to you btw?

Utrecht shooting: Suspect Tanis admits deadly tram attack

Turkish-born Gokmen Tanis says he acted alone in the killing of three people.

www.bbc.com

No, it was quite close to me actually. Very scary stuff.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

No, it was quite close to me actually. Very scary stuff.

Both my niece and nephew's schools were on lockdown for most of that day.

 

[konfab]

Do you not think gays and trans people were ever discriminated against by law?

Of course they were.
The law shouldn't discriminate between individuals.

 

[cerebus]

Of course they were.
The law shouldn't discriminate between individuals.

And do you think those laws were removed without the intervention of public gay activism?

 

[Marcell1992]

1 cake shop ... lets bring down an entire movement that has developed over decades and decades ... 1 cake shop means all gay people are like that!

1 perverted person who is illegitamtely riding on the coat tails of the cause for trans to live out his sexual fantasies ... yeah lets bring down the entire trans movement and paint them all with the same brush.

Yip thanks for adding to my point that it is an over reaction.

Have you heard of dragqueen story time? Literally some of them are convicted pedophiles telling "children" stories to kids.
Children younger than 18 can be operated on and their gender changed? Las time I checked, I need to be 18 years old before I can drink or smoke.
Gay pride, more like gay lust if you've seen some of those awful parades.

But yes, it's "Only 1 person"

 

[buka001]

Have you heard of dragqueen story time? Literally some of them are convicted pedophiles telling "children" stories to kids.
Children younger than 18 can be operated on and their gender changed? Las time I checked, I need to be 18 years old before I can drink or smoke.
Gay pride, more like gay lust if you've seen some of those awful parades.

But yes, it's "Only 1 person"

Deal with the pedophiles, using existing legislation. Convicted pedophiles in the USA and UK are legally not allowed to be with children. So address that issue. That is not a trans rights issue.

Parents carrying out those changes on their kids are the problem, deal with them. That is some weird Munchaizen by proxy type crazy. Not a trans rights issue.

Gay pride parades offend you? So don't go. I don't go. That is your issue. I have been in bars where straight people had sex on the bar stool. So public displays of sex etc is not a gays only thing.

 

[Cray]

Gay pride, more like gay lust if you've seen some of those awful parades.

Did someone touch you on one of your deadly sins? People acting "lustfully" in public is hardly the sole domain of gay people....

 

[Gingerbeardman]

And I wont let up on your blindspot either.

Lol. There isn't one, except in your imagination.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Sure you didn't except the language of your post saying otherwise and then the caveat, capture all of blaming everything on the left.

I have a steelfixer who transitioned from male to female.

We also have a planner who transitioned many years ago and identifies as a women.

I cannot see what all the fuss is about. Honestly? They are not aliens, they have not forced anything on anyone.

Your cultural Marxism is showing.

Try actually addressing his point.

But of course, you can't, because you're just an ideologue.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Without the respective gay rights movements the legitimate cause for concern that they had would never have received the attention they did in the respective courts and parliaments to push through legislative change.

Gay people would still be prejudiced, like they are in many countries, had there not been the protests and movements.

The difference is, once you have equality, you don't actually need constant propaganda trying to shove it down everyone's throats and mindlessly pushing the line ever further because you have a fscking worldview that can't work unless it's opposing some kind of imagined oppression.

But of course, you think it's fine to quote pre-Civil Rights thinkers as if their issues still haven't been resolved, so that's hardly surprising. No doubt it won't be long before we get a lecture from you on the perils of white monopoly capital as dictated by the likes of Robert Sobukwe.

 

[theratman]

There's an edit button...

 

[cerebus]

There's an edit button...

There's an 'ignore' button

 

[theratman]

There's an 'ignore' button

Already used, unfortunately the profile still pops up with a spoiler tag on the app.