Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[buka001]

Collectively those dweebs have already been sentenced to 433 years in prison... Reardon just looking to add to that total.

Yip, but don't worry they were pushed there by le Kuktural Muchism and were not sucked in by right wing propaganda. Not their fault.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

There are plenty of conservatives in the US who are quite consistent and principled and detest Trump, precisely because they're principled and consistent. Tom Nichols, Rick Wilson, Andrew Eggers, Charlie Sykes etc.

You know, just as the Repubs of yesteryear are not the Repubs of today, the same is true of the Dems. You might wanna take that into account.

Perhaps you could spend some of your time advocating on behalf of policies and politicians that would make their lives better instead of constantly running interference for the people that is making their lives worse? Just a thought.

You mean like Tulsi Gabbard? Pretty sure I even said somewhere that atm I'd vote for her over Trump. I expect my views to remain that way for so long as Tulsi doesn't pussify and become a DNC toady as Bernie Sanders did.

Indeed, a search for me talking about Gabbard isn't hard to do:

Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

You lack a ridiculous amount of self awareness. The entire Democrat party and other leftists believe that it is capitalism and free markets that is holding back people. :ROFL: That's right. Not holding them back, oppressing them. And more than that, this oppression need not even be...

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Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

By success, you mean conviction? Yeah, the Senate won’t convict... But that’s not the point. When Nancy presses the button, House Judiciary get to hold live, televised hearings. They also get grand jury documents without WH interference... they’ll draft the articles of impeachment and a...

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Of course, we all know Gabbard has become toxic by virtue of her mystifying "alt-right" appeal, right?

I kinda liked Yang for a while, but his tactical crying ruined it for me.

I know this 'actually I'm a leftist' charade of yours is razor-thin, but it would make it seem a little more convincing.

I'd call myself a lefty, not a leftist. I certainly don't actively try to be on the left rather than the right, and I'm not deranged enough to think that authority can be abolished entirely and that any acknowledgement of this turns one into an incoherent authoritarian.

And to be quite honest, I think the number of leftys disgusted at the leftists outnumbers the number of leftists on the forum.

Oh cool, so who do we blame for antifa's actions?

Right, because you're not going to claim that antifa's motivations are grounded in real world concerns and suffering that require attention and human activity, even if their proposed strategy is arse backwards?

Notice the excuses for perpetrators of right wing violence. Not their fault, 'they're just pushing back', left is being too mean, pc and hurt fee-fees is causing it. Antifa chucks milkshakes? Apocalypse is on the horizon.

This is dishonest. It would be nice if you could admit that leftist propaganda is indeed an aggravating factor, that's all that's being asked of anyone here. The fact that it is too much to ask, however, is telling.

Although hey, at least Cerebus appeared to make that acknowledgement yesterday. Although he totally mistook Access' acknowledgement of it the wrong way.

P.S. Go find a single post where I decried antifa for the milkshaking incident if you can, I dare ya.

On a lot of things, probably.

So, like gratuitous labeling of cultural marxism and SJWs?

Ideologues exist. Insofar as they exist, one can call them out for what they are. And if your point of view or reasons for coming to your conclusions are isomorphic with that of the ideologues, the label can legitimately be applied and isn't gratuitous by any means.

You might be able to make a case for "snowflake" being gratuitous, though.

It basically is

. The evidence shows that it's relentless stigmatisation, demonisation and harassment (including out of jobs, school etc.) that causes the problems. If transgender people grow up with a loving and supportive environment, they're not too dissimilar to the rest of the population. They're humans, who knew!

And that's exactly the same argument that will be used to normalise paedophilia.

What do you think the reason is that conservatives have never actually supported that in practice and have always pushed for discriminatory legislation?

Because marriage as a social institution has to be respected if it is to be effective. It no longer is, btw, the value of the institution has become deleterious in the eyes of many men. See the recent thread for what this looks like in action. You can't have the norm without the discrimination, but you are blind to the value of discrimination in this regard.

Which part of this is supposed to convince us that it's not just yet another histrionic moral panic? As was gay rights, women getting the vote, etc.

Lol, which side of the debate are you gonna sit on when the MAP activists start demanding that MAPs get tolerance and acceptance cuz of the harm the discrimination against them otherwise?

 

[buka001]

I'd call myself a lefty,

And you think I have a blindspot?! Loving the early morning comedy. Will make my day go so much better.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

And you think I have a blindspot?! Loving the early morning comedy. Will make my day go so much better.

Again, one can be a lefty and still acknowledge that society has a need for authority. Cultural Marxists and the like are the ones that cannot accept this and hide their authoritarianism as anti-authoritarianism and thus screw everything up for everyone a la Stalinist "rule of the people".

Lefties who cannot notice this about the left are the ones with the blind spot.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Yip, but don't worry they were pushed there by le Kuktural Muchism and were not sucked in by right wing propaganda. Not their fault.

And just yesterday you were asking that we agree to disagree, now here you are today making more baiting remarks.

 

[buka001]

And just yesterday you were asking that we agree to disagree, now here you are today making more baiting remarks.

Lol Just because we will agree to disagree, it doesn't mean we can't keep calling out eachothers BS?

Point is, just like you, I will not change my mind.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Lol Just because we will agree to disagree, it doesn't mean we can't keep calling out eachothers BS?

That's just disagreeing, not agreeing to disagree. Or if it's agreeing to disagree, then it just means I take potshots at your position insofar as I feel I can discredit it as I have been, while you make snarky side-remarks, so why the call for a truce?

Point is, just like you, I will not change my mind.

The thing is, I'm actually open to having my mind changed.

 

[buka001]

That's just disagreeing, not agreeing to disagree. Or if it's agreeing to disagree, then it just means I take potshots at your position insofar as I feel I can discredit it as I have been, while you make snarky side-remarks, so why the call for a truce?


The thing is, I'm actually open to having my mind changed.

I am still going to highlight the problem with the rise of white supremacism and its associated propaganda. You can call me out and perhaps I will be wrong sometimes. You will still call out le Kuktural Muchism and you will also be wrong sometimes.

The idea is that we don't protract the same argument for days on end.

 

[cerebus]

The Justice Department Sent Immigration Judges A White Nationalist Blog Post With Anti-Semitic Attacks

Immigration court employees were informed Friday that they would no longer receive daily news briefings after a BuzzFeed News report on its contents.

www.buzzfeednews.com

The Justice Department Sent Immigration Judges A White Nationalist Blog Post With Anti-Semitic Attacks
“The post features links and content that directly attacks sitting immigration judges with racial and ethnically tinged slurs,” a union chief said in a letter.

An email sent from the Justice Department to all immigration court employees this week included a link to an article posted on a white nationalist website that “directly attacks sitting immigration judges with racial and ethnically tinged slurs,” according to a letter sent by an immigration judges union and obtained by BuzzFeed News.

According to the National Association of Immigration Judges, the Justice Department’s Executive Office for Immigration Review (EOIR) sent court employees a link to a blog post from VDare, a white nationalist website, in its morning news briefing earlier this week that included anti-Semitic attacks on judges.


The Justice Department of the US.

 

[rambo919]

obtained by BuzzFeed News.

......I'll just leave that there....

 

[cerebus]

......I'll just leave that there....

It's real news

 

[rambo919]

It's real news

The thing with buzzfeed.... it eats real news and then poops it out on the internet.

 

[cerebus]

The thing with buzzfeed.... it eats real news and then poops it out on the internet.

What parts of the story do you have an issue with? The memo is quoted verbatim.

 

[rambo919]

What parts of the story do you have an issue with? The memo is quoted verbatim.

Pretty much the buzzfeed part, I'm utterly bigoted towards that sort of "news" and it's inevitable heavy added on spin and lots of click-bait everywhere.

Buzzfeed Title Generator - Ravi Parikh's Website

Official website of Ravi Parikh.

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Vice is the same

https://imgur.com/a/h66WeYq

 

[cerebus]

Pretty much the buzzfeed part, I'm utterly bigoted towards that sort of "news" and it's inevitable heavy added on spin and lots of click-bait everywhere.

Ok well it's being reported everywhere the same, so unless you have some factual issue with the article itself your complaint is invalid.

 

[rambo919]

Ok well it's being reported everywhere the same, so unless you have some factual issue with the article itself your complaint is invalid.

I mock buzzfeed "news" whenever it comes up, it's a reflex. Most of what they do is not real news it's badly disguised opinion pieces even when it contains real news.

Back to the actual news though..... how is white supremacist groups(which are not the same as white separatist groups) unofficially threatening Jews new news?

 

[Pegasus]

 

[cerebus]

I mock buzzfeed "news" whenever it comes up, it's a reflex. Most of what they do is not real news it's badly disguised opinion pieces even when it contains real news.

Back to the actual news though..... how is white supremacist groups(which are not the same as white separatist groups) unofficially threatening Jews new news?

Do you think the Justice Department of the US should be mixing in white supremacist antisemitic content with its daily briefings?

 

[Temujin]

Do you think the Justice Department of the US should be mixing in white supremacist antisemitic content with its daily briefings?

Do you have the actual 'content' that was sent? I'm trying to find it but currently all I see is a problem that it was 'from that site', and had 'links to' etc... but would like to see what the 'content' was before calling it 'white supremacist antisemitic content'

 

[cerebus]

Do you have the actual 'content' that was sent? I'm trying to find it but currently all I see is a problem that it was 'from that site', and had 'links to' etc... but would like to see what the 'content' was before calling it 'white supremacist antisemitic content'

No I don't think it's online but the article details what was in it and includes the actual letter from the group of judges who received it.