Donald J. Trump: President of the USA Part III Covfefe

[rambo919]

No I don't think it's online but the article details what was in it and includes the actual letter from the group of judges who received it.

So no proof other than an article from a generally hysterical website.....

 

[cerebus]

So no proof other than an article from a generally hysterical website.....

And this:

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

The Morning Briefing,? which is distributed on a daily basis by EOIR to all EOIR
employees including each individual Immigration Judge, recently contained a
pseudo-anonymous source whose values and statements are in contradiction with the Department
of Justice?s ethical standards and legal principles. Speci?cally, the August 19, 2019 morning
news brie?ngs contained "news? from a website known for publishing white nationalist ideology
and Anti-Semitic tropes. NAIJ has received numerous complaints fromjudges across the nation
who found the blog offensive and equated having it on the of?cial EOIR web site to working in a
hostile work environment.

VDare is a website that supports white nationalism and has been found to be a ?hate website.?
The founder and promoter of Dare, Peter Brimelow, has ties to Richard Spencer, an avowed
racist and supporter of Nazi ideology. Brimelow was quoted at a 2017 conference as saying
?Hispanics do specialize in rape, particularly of children. They?re prone to it, compared to other
groups.? VDare is named for Virginia Dare the ?rst English child born in North America, which
is an important symbol for white supremacists. September 24, 2018).

The post features links and content that directly attacks sitting Immigration Judges with racial
and ethnically tinged slurs and the label ?Kritarch.? The reference to Kritarch in a negative tone
is deeply offensive and Anti-Semitic. The Kritarchy is a reference to ancient Israel during the
time when there was rule by judges, as described in the Book of Judges, part of the Old
Testament. VDare?s use of the term in a pejorative manner casts Jewish history in a negative
light as an Anti-Semitic trope of Jews seeking power and control.[

NAIJ fully supports the First Amendment and the freedom of expression it protects. However,
publication and dissemination of a white supremacist, Anti-Semitic website throughout the EOIR
is antithetical to the goals and ideals of the Department of Justice. VDare has every right to
publish its anonymous opinions under the byline ?Federale.? However, the Department of
Justice?s use of its authority to legitimize and provide an imprimatur of respectability to?this
website under the guise of ?news? runs counter to American ideals of equality under the law.
The Article was presented alongside legitimate news sources, between an article in The
Washington Post and the Connecticut Public Radio. Additionally the the article was highlighted
as it was accompanied by a summary while other news sources were cited in a string cite format.

NAIJ requests that EOIR immediately withdraw the offensive post, issue an apology to all EOIR
employees, particularly the impacted Immigration Judges, and take immediate steps to ensure
that such posts or content is not enshrined as a legitimate news source in future EOIR
publications and represented under the Department of Justice seal. Separately, EOIR should take
all appropriate safety and security measures for all judges given the tone and tenor of this
posting.
/quote]

 

[rambo919]

And this:

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

So a piece of news was distributed which was found to be objectionable solely on where it originally came from....... and of course we have no way of knowing whether the news was correct or not.

And then a tabloid site known for objecting to anything even vaguely objectionable (ironically becoming objectionable in the process) fans the flames of hate......

Now if it's news even if it comes from an objectionable source...... do you see your problem here?

EDIT: btw that document looks easily fakable

 

[cerebus]

So a piece of news was distributed which was found to be objectionable solely on where it originally came from....... and of course we have no way of knowing whether the news was correct or not.

And then a tabloid site known for objecting to anything even vaguely objectionable (ironically becoming objectionable in the process) fans the flames of hate......

Now if it's news even if it comes from an objectionable source...... do you see your problem here?

The NAIJ (National Associate of Immigrant Judges) sent an official letter of complaint to the DOJ. Take it up with them.

 

[rambo919]

The NAIJ (National Associate of Immigrant Judges) sent an official letter of complaint to the DOJ. Take it up with them.

So storm in a teacup then

 

[cerebus]

So storm in a teacup then

It really isn't. They were complaining about receiving a piece of official government correspondence which contained white nationalist content. You're going to some extreme lengths to deny that this event happened or that it's important.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

It really isn't. They were complaining about receiving a piece of official government correspondence which contained white nationalist content. You're going to some extreme lengths to deny that this event happened or that it's important.

No, the correspondence did not contain white nationalist content, nor is that what is claimed. It is claimed that the correspondence originated with a publication that supposedly espouses white nationalist values, but the evidene is basically guilt by association nonsense.

Storm in a teacup indeed.

 

[cerebus]

No, the correspondence did not contain white nationalist content, nor is that what is claimed. It is claimed that the correspondence originated with a publication that supposedly espouses white nationalist values, but the evidene is basically guilt by association nonsense.

Storm in a teacup indeed.

Nope, not according to them:

The post features links and content that directly attacks sitting Immigration Judges with racial
and ethnically tinged slurs and the label Kritarch. The reference to Kritarch in a negative tone
is deeply offensive and Anti-Semitic. The Kritarchy is a reference to ancient Israel during the
time when there was rule by judges, as described in the Book of Judges, part of the Old
Testament. VDare?s use of the term in a pejorative manner casts Jewish history in a negative
light as an Anti-Semitic trope of Jews seeking power and control.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Nope, not according to them:

It's not obvious that kritarch is actually a pejorative term. And likewise, given the prevalence of Zionism among American Jewry, the assertion that Jewish judges would rule in an ethnically conscious manner is more plausible than implausible. If white nationalism is bad, so's all the other kinds of ethnic nationalism. Suck it up buttercup.

Kritarchy - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Kritarchy, also called kritocracy or dikastocracy, is a system of rule by judges (Hebrew: שופטים, shoftim) in the tribal confederacy of ancient Israel during the period of time described in the Book of Judges, following Joshua's conquest of Canaan and prior to the united monarchy under Saul.[1]
Examples
Because it is a compound of the Greek words κριτής, krites ("judge") and ἄρχω, árkhō ("to rule"), its use has expanded to cover rule by judges in the modern sense as well, as in the case of Somalia, ruled by judges with the polycentric legal tradition of xeer,[2] and arguably the Islamic Courts Union[citation needed].
Ireland had a system of kritarchy from the 5th century BCE to the 5th century CE under the Brehon Law, the Brehons being the class of Druid Judges.[3][4] A kritarchy system was also present in medieval Ireland until the 13th century.[5]
The Icelandic Commonwealth between the 9th and 13th century has been labelled as a kritarchy by David Friedman and Einar Olgeirsson.[6][7]
Frisia in the 16th century had a system of kritiarchy.[5]
In popular culture

• The fictional regime of Mega-city One, the focus of setting for the Judge Dredd franchise, can be described as a kritarchy.

 

[greg0205]

Jane Mayer’s reporting David Koch has died.

Thoughts and prayers.

 

[konfab]

Jane Mayer’s reporting David Koch has died.

Thoughts and prayers.

Horrible people those evil guys wanting a government that protects individual rights.

 

[cerebus]

It's not obvious that Kritarch is actually a pejorative term. And likewise, given the prevalence of Zionism among American Jewry, the assertion that Jewish judges would rule in an ethnically conscious manner is more plausible than implausible. If white nationalism is bad, so's all the other kinds of ethnic nationalism. Suck it up buttercup.

/Claims his version of cultural marxism isn't an antisemitic conspiracy theory
/Says **** like this...

 

[Gingerbeardman]

/Claims his version of cultural marxism isn't an antisemitic conspiracy theory
/Says **** like this...

Zionism is ethnonationalism. White nationalism is ethnonationalism. What's the difference?

Han Chinese are also notoriously ethnocentric with respect to their in-group preferences. Does acknowledging this make me an anti-oriental or something?

Don't take it from me, take it from the ADL :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1164275632966160384

 

[greg0205]

Horrible people those evil guys wanting a government that protects individual rights.

By protecting individual rights you mean spending millions to oppose worker’s rights, foreclosures, buying GOP politicians, opposing healthcare and fighting immigration. Obviously.

What’s your take on them contaminating the environment with a whole bunch of oil spills then?

 

[Gingerbeardman]

By protecting individual rights you mean spending millions to oppose worker’s rights, foreclosures, buying GOP politicians, opposing healthcare and fighting immigration. Obviously.

What’s your take on them contaminating the environment with a whole bunch of oil spills then?

You should rather ask what his take is on the Kochs teaming up with Soros to police "hate speech" online.

Libertarian my ass.

 

[konfab]

By protecting individual rights you mean spending millions to oppose worker’s rights, foreclosures, buying GOP politicians, opposing healthcare and fighting immigration. Obviously.

What’s your take on them contaminating the environment with a whole bunch of oil spills then?

Workers rights = Forcing an employer to associate with someone they don't want to.
Foreclosures = property rights of banks in a contract with an individual who voluntarily borrowed money.
Buying GOP politicians = wow, its almost as decreasing the size of the government would make this type of thing useful.
Opposing healthcare = spending millions on research and public care.

Koch says that his biggest contributions go toward a "moon shot" campaign to finding the cure for cancer, according to his profile on Forbes.[8] Between 1998 and 2012, Koch contributed at least $395 million to medical research causes and institutions.[45]

Koch sits on the Board of Directors of the Prostate Cancer Foundation and has contributed $41 million to the foundation, including $5 million to a collaborative project in the field of nanotechnology.[46][47] Koch is the eponym of the David H. Koch Chair of the Prostate Cancer Foundation, a position currently held by Dr. Jonathan Simons.[48]

In 2006, he gave $20 million to Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine in Baltimore for cancer research. The building he financed was named the David H. Koch Cancer Research Building .[49]

In 2007, he contributed $100 million to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology for the construction of a new 350,000-square-foot (33,000 m2) research and technology facility to serve as the home of the David H. Koch Institute for Integrative Cancer Research,[50] Since joining the MIT Corporation in 1988, Koch has given a total of $185 million to MIT.[45] $15 million to New York-Presbyterian Hospital Weill Cornell Medical Center[51] and $30 million to the Memorial Sloan–Kettering Cancer Center in New York.[52]

In 2008, he donated $25 million to the University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston to establish the David Koch Center for Applied Research in Genitourinary Cancers.[53]

In 2011 Koch gave $5 million to the House Ear Institute, in Los Angeles, to create a center for hearing restoration,[43] and $25 million to the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York City[54][55] In 2013, he gave $100 million to NewYork–Presbyterian Hospital, the largest philanthropic donation in its history, beginning a $2 billion campaign to conclude in 2019 for a new ambulatory care center and renovation the infrastructure of the hospital's five sites.[56]

In 2015, he committed $150 million to Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center in New York to build the David H. Koch Center for Cancer Care, which will be housed in a 23-story building in development between East 73rd and 74th Streets overlooking the FDR Drive. The center will combine state-of-the-art cancer treatment in an environment that supports patients, families, and caregivers. The building will include flexible personal and community spaces, educational offerings, and opportunities for physical exercise.[57

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch

Just because they don't think the government should be involved with healthcare doesn't mean they don't care about healthcare.
I am not surprised you think like this tbh. It is the statist way after all.

Fighting immigration = " Fighting Trump in the white house"

The network also hopes to influence the immigration debate, pushing for a path to citizenship for recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and countering White House efforts to curb legal immigration, as with proposed changes to the visa lottery system. Daniel Garza, president of the network's LIBRE Initiative, said Saturday that the network "cannot support arbitrary cuts to future legal immigration levels."

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/28/politics/koch-network-2018-outlook/index.html

 

[konfab]

You should rather ask what his take is on the Kochs teaming up with Soros to police "hate speech" online.

Libertarian my ass.

Stupid move because Soros et al will simply use that to push their agenda. But yes, theoretically, regardless of the morality involved, pushing for companies to regulate content on their own platforms is not against any libertarian belief. They probably wanted to be pro-active about it before the leftists create laws that do it for them.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Stupid move because Soros et al will simply use that to push their agenda. But yes, theoretically, regardless of the morality involved, pushing for companies to regulate content on their own platforms is not against any libertarian belief. They probably wanted to be pro-active about it before the leftists create laws that do it for them.

I don't have an issue with companies regulating content on their own platforms, just they have to actually not lie about it to the public and if they choose to regulate the content then they should be considered editorially responsible for the content on the platform, too.

Frankly I am not convinced the social media companies have a viable business model if they choose to police content.

 

[greg0205]

Workers rights = Forcing an employer to associate with someone they don't want to.
Foreclosures = property rights of banks in a contract with an individual who voluntarily borrowed money.
Buying GOP politicians = wow, its almost as decreasing the size of the government would make this type of thing useful.
Opposing healthcare = spending millions on research and public care.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koch

Just because they don't think the government should be involved with healthcare doesn't mean they don't care about healthcare.
I am not surprised you think like this tbh. It is the statist way after all.

Fighting immigration = " Fighting Trump in the white house"

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/28/politics/koch-network-2018-outlook/index.html

Imagine using an example of a billionaire... with prostate cancer

Spending hundreds of millions... on cancer research

As an example of his Medicare-for-all philanthropy

Imagine it.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Imagine using an example of a billionaire... with prostate cancer

Spending hundreds of millions... on cancer research

As an example of his Medicare-for-all philanthropy

Imagine it.

Prostate Cancer: A Guide for Aging Men - Aging.com

Prostate cancer is one of the most frequently diagnosed cancers in the world, despite it only being diagnosed in males.

www.aging.com

Prostate cancer is one of the most frequently diagnosed cancers in the world, despite it only being diagnosed in males (females do not have prostate glands). In fact, more than 70 percent of men over the age of 80 have some quantity of cancer cells in their prostate.

I'd say odds are 50/50 you have it, too.