Donald John Trump: The 2nd Greatest President of the USA (by volume)

[cerebus]

Everybody can see he's America's first Reality TV president, the snake-oil salesman from hell. But his act is still classier than Hillary's.

Hillary again..... :erm:

Will you pretty please finally admit that the Democrats need to reprioritise and to get off the sour tit of resentment based identity politics?

Trump's message is a load of schit, but at least he has the capacity to vaguely cobble together a string of words that articulates something to stand for.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...4b9e4b014ae8c69dd88?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

A bad solution is still better than no solution, and undermining a bad solution is no solution at all.

The fact of the matter is that humanity is undergoing a paradigm shift before our very eyes and we need to start talking frankly about solutions that will work for everybody because otherwise people are going to start planning their own survival parties and the conflict that manifests itself out of that chaos will likely get everybody killed.

And no, praying to the open border gods isn't a solution, either.

And.. more meaningless rambling. Okay then. Somehow a bad president is better than a bad message.

 

[cerebus]

Pfft. It's all fake news.

Ex-lobbyists swarm Trump administration, despite 'drain the swamp' pledge

Well, he doesn't want poor people in his cabinet. Maybe the swamp was actually all the proles in government.

 

[Garson007]

Well, he doesn't want poor people in his cabinet. Maybe the swamp was actually all the proles in government.

I'm glad you're hiring poor people to be heads of departments. *snickers*

 

[cerebus]

I'm glad you're hiring poor people to be heads of departments. *snickers*

Well I never promised to drain any swamps, now did I?

 

[The_Assimilator]

A bad solution is still better than no solution, and undermining a bad solution is no solution at all.

If a solution is bad, that almost always points to the fact that there is a better solution that hasn't been discovered or (as in the case of the GOP) is purposefully being ignored. There is no good reason to permit the latter.

BTW, where was your outrage about "undermining a bad solution" when the GOP was deliberately obstructing Obama? Yet now the shoe's on the other foot, and all of a sudden you and Garson have a problem. Strange, that.

The fact of the matter is that humanity is undergoing a paradigm shift before our very eyes and we need to start talking frankly about solutions that will work for everybody because otherwise people are going to start planning their own survival parties and the conflict that manifests itself out of that chaos will likely get everybody killed.

So healthcare bills that remove coverage from the needy are a solution for everybody? Rejecting democracy because "a bad solution is still better than no solution" is a solution for everybody?

Authoritarianism can only ever be the answer when the authoritarian is someone who genuinely cares about the interests and equality of all, not just their special interest groups. That is why Trump, and the GOP, are the worst option - because they only care about themselves. The Democrats, at least, put the interests of the many before those of the few.

 

[C4Cat]

OD, give it up, his brand of bullschit smelled better than Hillary's and the fact that Trump is openly trolling Pelosi means that it's time to wake up and smell the crappy odour of reality. It's the smell that stood the test of time.

Everybody can see he's America's first Reality TV president, the snake-oil salesman from hell. But his act is still classier than Hillary's.

Will you pretty please finally admit that the Democrats need to reprioritise and to get off the sour tit of resentment based identity politics?

Trump's message is a load of schit, but at least he has the capacity to vaguely cobble together a string of words that articulates something to stand for.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...4b9e4b014ae8c69dd88?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

A bad solution is still better than no solution, and undermining a bad solution is no solution at all.

The fact of the matter is that humanity is undergoing a paradigm shift before our very eyes and we need to start talking frankly about solutions that will work for everybody because otherwise people are going to start planning their own survival parties and the conflict that manifests itself out of that chaos will likely get everybody killed.

And no, praying to the open border gods isn't a solution, either.

Jesus Xarog, even for you that's an impressive amount of drivel

 

[konfab]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...9e4b014ae8c69dd88?ncid=engmodushp mg00000004

think this framework is accurate in describing conservative convictions. Look at the contemporary issue of gender pronouns. Diversity of gender expression, when it becomes state-mandated, has awakened the slumbering spirit of conservatism in the West. Jordan Peterson opposed Canada’s bill C-16 on the grounds that mandating speech in the name of human rights was morally illegitimate. Forcing him to recognize an identity that has strayed from the structure of the West using the West’s own laws would be a tyranny of the highest order. Thus, he refuses. In his view, it would be the serpent of postmodernism usurping the divine right of God’s logos. Postmodernism is an invader that has grown within the West over its discontents, a seething hydra with a thousand heads.

That isn't exactly what Peterson was saying. Just watch him in the senate hearing:
[video=youtube;mEfgf2GRk3Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEfgf2GRk3Q[/video]

The whole bill was to essentially legislate an unscientific viewpoint into the law.

 

[RanzB]

Hillary again..... :erm:

That will be the Trumpites' last vestige of hope. He's been the absolutely dogsh.t so far... But Hillary...

 

[cerebus]

That will be the Trumpites' last vestige of hope. He's been the absolutely dogsh.t so far... But Hillary...

Lock her up... is that still a thing? Boy that sure was fun, you remember that?

Seems like Trump stopped caring about that one about a day after he won.

 

[RanzB]

Lock her up... is that still a thing? Boy that sure was fun, you remember that?

Seems like Trump stopped caring about that one about a day after he won.

No man, he was 'bluffing'. Like when he bluffed about having Comey on tape.

 

[Garson007]

Well I never promised to drain any swamps, now did I?

So wealth is a swamp? I now understand the hate for the wealthy.

 

[Garson007]

The Democrats, at least, put the interests of the many before those of the few.

:crylaugh:

The welfare class is not "the many". The many are working people with families.

 

[RanzB]

So wealth is a swamp? I now understand the hate for the wealthy.

Nobody hates the wealthy so stop with your whining. People hate now-wealthy people who have used the government system to help/enrich themselves and advocate taking help away from people who are in the same position they used to be in, or people who genuinely need help.

See idiots like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell.

 

[Unhappy438]

Garson, you need to brush up on your trolling. What you want to do is bait but at least seem semi intelligible. At the moment you're just giving us a teenagers version of it.

 

[Garson007]

Garson, you need to brush up on your trolling. What you want to do is bait but at least seem semi intelligible. At the moment you're just giving us a teenagers version of it.

That's it! No more rattles in your cot.

 

[Unhappy438]

That's it! No more rattles in your cot.

A little bit better, you're learning at least.

 

[Xarog]

Hillary again..... :erm:

Yup.

Hillary carried a message that stank, and the Democrats have yet to change their deoderant. When are they going to learn?

And.. more meaningless rambling. Okay then. Somehow a bad president is better than a bad message.

It must be tough to have so many things fly over your head. I don't know why the fsck you're even responding to something that was clearly directed at OD.

 

[Xarog]

If a solution is bad, that almost always points to the fact that there is a better solution that hasn't been discovered or (as in the case of the GOP) is purposefully being ignored. There is no good reason to permit the latter.

The GOP does not equate to all conservatives. Nice straw man.

BTW, where was your outrage about "undermining a bad solution" when the GOP was deliberately obstructing Obama? Yet now the shoe's on the other foot, and all of a sudden you and Garson have a problem. Strange, that.

Straw man.

So healthcare bills that remove coverage from the needy are a solution for everybody? Rejecting democracy because "a bad solution is still better than no solution" is a solution for everybody?

Straw man.

Authoritarianism can only ever be the answer when the authoritarian is someone who genuinely cares about the interests and equality of all, not just their special interest groups. That is why Trump, and the GOP, are the worst option - because they only care about themselves. The Democrats, at least, put the interests of the many before those of the few.

Straw man.

What the average person actually prioritises in their life and how that affects their decisions when it comes to the polling booths does nothing to redeem the message of any particular political party. Did you even read the link to understand the context?

 

[Xarog]

That isn't exactly what Peterson was saying. Just watch him in the senate hearing:
The whole bill was to essentially legislate an unscientific viewpoint into the law.

Look, I don't expect a HuffPo article to get all the details absolutely on par, I was just resorting to it because maybe OD might take a step back and process what is being presented to him if that's the source.

But as for that specific example, it's quite clear that Peterson's opposition to Bill C-16 is nested in something deeper and he really does argue that PoMo makes use of Derrida's phallogocentrism in order to undermine Western traditional values and that all of the SJW nonsense is postmodern political ideology aimed at tearing the established order to the ground.

Edit:

I thought you might like to see this as well:

[video=youtube;Nyw4rTywyY0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyw4rTywyY0[/video]

 

[Xarog]

Jesus Xarog, even for you that's an impressive amount of drivel

I'm in the mood for some fun. Why don't you try being specific and we'll see what's drivel and what actually has substance.