Donald John Trump: The 2nd Greatest President of the USA (by volume)

[rietrot]

Why are you acting as though this terminology is weird and unusual?


You could probably start by 'hacking' the devices that count ballot boxes,

Mostly because of people like you and the media making up complete BS.

You don't have any proof that Russia can hack the election directly through the ballot boxes/voting machines. I bet you don't even realise what the implications of that is, but the media and whoever wants to warmonger seems to be building up to that.

or you could phish key members of the Democratic campaign,

This has a remote possibility of being true if someone inside the Dems didn't release the emails themselves. The media is also responsible for the spin. If info gets released that they like, its anonymous officials that has the best interest of the US at hart. When info gets released that they don't like, it is the Russians.

 

[cerebus]

Mostly because of people like you and the media making up complete BS.

You don't have any proof that Russia can hack the election directly through the ballot boxes/voting machines. I bet you don't even realise what the implications of that is, but the media and whoever wants to warmonger seems to be building up to that.

This has a remote possibility of being true if someone inside the Dems didn't release the emails themselves. The media is also responsible for the spin. If info gets released that they like, its anonymous officials that has the best interest of the US at hart. When info gets released that they don't like, it is the Russians.

So it seems like you do understand the meaning of hacking the election. You just don't believe it happened despite everyone outside of your delusional bubble, including Donald J Trump, admitting it.

 

[theratman]

Good lord it's pretty well reported and known that there was some sort of hacking going on, even Trump admits that now. Why continue to deny it? Heck I remember Trump Pre election saying that if the Dems win then there was hacking involved.

The hacking accusations are not against Trump or the GOP , they are just there so take off the roses tinted glasses and watch how the story unfolds.

 

[rietrot]

Good lord it's pretty well reported and known that there was some sort of hacking going on, even Trump admits that now. Why continue to deny it? Heck I remember Trump Pre election saying that if the Dems win then there was hacking involved.

The hacking accusations are not against Trump or the GOP , they are just there so take off the roses tinted glasses and watch how the story unfolds.

The GOP conspiracy crowd has always made allegations of hacking. They have claimed the machines can't be trusted long before Trump. I just want to make sure on here that we have now moved the idea from tinfoil hattery into the realm of reality.
Then I would like to see some actual proof for the Russian warmongering, some evidence that they really went far enough to justify sanctions and/or war which seem to be the desired outcome.

 

[cerebus]

The GOP conspiracy crowd has always made allegations of hacking. They have claimed the machines can't be trusted long before Trump. I just want to make sure on here that we have now moved the idea from tinfoil hattery into the realm of reality.
Then I would like to see some actual proof for the Russian warmongering, some evidence that they really went far enough to justify sanctions and/or war which seem to be the desired outcome.

There is no desired outcome of war. That only exists in your febrile imaginations.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Russia hacking the election is a real story, DJT admitted it in that interview.

Sure it is ...
CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump and Russia
CNN is cracking down on how they cover Russia

 

[theratman]

Sure it is ...
CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump and Russia
CNN is cracking down on how they cover Russia

That story was about linking Trump to the hacking, we've not talking about Trump being linked to it, we're talking about the hacks themselves.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

That story was about linking Trump to the hacking, we've not talking about Trump being linked to it, we're talking about the hacks themselves.

The hacks that have never been proven ... sure ... "a real story" indeed :crylaugh:

 

[cerebus]

Sure it is ...
CNN deletes, retracts story linking Trump and Russia
CNN is cracking down on how they cover Russia

What's the point of those links? I'm sorry, among the torrent of real news about Russia I must have missed a couple of retracted stories.

 

[Garson007]

Lol. "Real news".

 

[theratman]

The hacks that have never been proven ... sure ... "a real story" indeed :crylaugh:

Trump has blamed Obama...Trump knows about the hacks.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-obama-russia-election-hacks-article-1.3276125


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40357357

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Trump has blamed Obama...Trump knows about the hacks.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-obama-russia-election-hacks-article-1.3276125
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40357357

and? I said the alleged hacks have never been proven, what Trump, or Obama, or anyone else says has no bearing at all on what the truth is.

From one of your own links it is clear, yet again, there is only conjecture, no evidence:

But she added there was no evidence to suggest actual vote ballots were altered in the election hack.
US intelligence agencies believe Moscow interfered to help Donald Trump win.

 

[Unhappy438]

From one of your own links it is clear, yet again, there is only conjecture, no evidence:

Read that first line again, you've used it incorrectly.

No evidence to suggest vote ballots were altered, not that the hacks didn't take place.

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Read that first line again, you've used it incorrectly.
No evidence to suggest vote ballots were altered, not that the hacks didn't take place.

Read the second line again, I used it correctly, and it refers to not just the ballots.

 

[Unhappy438]

Read the second line again, I used it correctly, and it refers to not just the ballots.

No you didnt and no it doesnt. What there is lots of evidence of is your inability to read and comprehend :crylaugh:

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

No you didnt and no it doesnt. What there is lots of evidence of is your inability to read and comprehend :crylaugh:

Yes I did and yes it does, your stubborn refusal to comprehend is not my problem.

 

[theratman]

and? I said the alleged hacks have never been proven, what Trump, or Obama, or anyone else says has no bearing at all on what the truth is.

From one of your own links it is clear, yet again, there is only conjecture, no evidence:

I'm not saying the hacks affected the outcome of the election, I'm staying that it looks like the election was hacked to a degree. Once again I'm not refuting the outcome,just that it is looking very likely that there was hacking involved. Are you saying there was no hacking?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Are you saying there was no hacking?

I'm saying no evidence has been provided of any Russian hacking. The strongest evidence offered to date is the tools and techniques used for the so called hacks were similar to what Russia has used in the past.

That in itself means nothing, then came the CIA leaks where documented evidence surfaced of how the CIA plants evidence when it hacks to make it look like other countries / organizations, further eroding the virtually non-existent value the "evidence" had.

At this stage it is as likely to be an inside job as it is Russia or China or anyone for that matter. If it happens to be an inside job the term "hacking" should be dropped from the discussion.

 

[Garson007]

Travel ban back on.

No way the SCOTUS will go against the constitution in the long run.

Let's now wait and see if Kennedy retires.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Travel ban back on.

No way the SCOTUS will go against the constitution in the long run.

Let's now wait and see if Kennedy retires.

And it was an unanimous judgement - 9-0. So even the liberal judges agreed with the ruling.