Don't use too many adaptors in SA plugs

animal531

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According to regulation 214 of the Road Traffic Act.

"a) The sign shall be placed not less than 45 metres from the motor vehicle along the roadway of the public road concerned in the direction from which traffic will approach such vehicle when travelling on the side of the roadway closest to such motor vehicle."

But at least you know not to put it very close to the vehicle....... ;)

If you place it more than 5m away it's just going to get stolen.
 

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According to regulation 214 of the Road Traffic Act.

"a) The sign shall be placed not less than 45 metres from the motor vehicle along the roadway of the public road concerned in the direction from which traffic will approach such vehicle when travelling on the side of the roadway closest to such motor vehicle."

But at least you know not to put it very close to the vehicle....... ;)

They neglect to mention the requirement of getting security guards, to see that it is not stolen, ridden over, etc.
 

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I'll bet you even money the people I see using rear facing car seats have no idea how to do this or that it's even a thing.

Also the picture doesn't show anything about a rear-facing babyseat.

I believe regardless of the airbag issue there is a massive statistical difference between babies in the front vs at the rear.

You don't get ISOFIX on the front seat after all....
 

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And the stupidity never ends....

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Not a single one of those plugs are logically thought out to allow for adaptors to plugged in along side one another which means yet another adaptor is required to make it possible and hence the problem complained about is perpetuad by kak design.

Those 2/3-prong sockets needs to be a good few centimetres apart to be of any use to anyone. Unless all manufacturers could just wake up and start making "vertical" power adaptors that could actually fit alongside each other.
 

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If you place it more than 5m away it's just going to get stolen.

And if you put it too close, it might not give enough advance warning and you get injured or killed when a driver hits you/your vehicle, so decisions have to be made.
 

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Yeah but they are expensive as heck.
I recently built a house and so every outlet has a normal plug and one of those new things too. Ended up having to buy a few of the plugs to get everything to fit.

On one hand its nice having a 2 prong socket everywhere and on the other its a pain having less 3 prong outlets available.
That is what plug extensions/adapters are there for. Defeats the laudable intention. Maybe there should be a regulation that all equipment has to be made available with a choice of the plug.
 

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And the stupidity never ends....

ZA-Plug-wall-sockets-2020.jpg


Not a single one of those plugs are logically thought out to allow for adaptors to plugged in along side one another which means yet another adaptor is required to make it possible and hence the problem complained about is perpetuad by kak design.

Those 2/3-prong sockets needs to be a good few centimetres apart to be of any use to anyone. Unless all manufacturers could just wake up and start making "vertical" power adaptors that could actually fit alongside each other.
That is my concern too and the 3 prong EU plug doesn't allow one to turn the adapter for a better fit. I actually can't remember every having seen a 3 prong EU plug on any equipment.
 

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Waste of time on the part of SABS. They should rather look at the engineering of it and realise that the angry pixies coming out of the wall don't care how many devices they go to. They should therefore rather focus on the following:
1) Fused plug sockets that limit the load to 16A
2) Encourage the use of residual current sockets in kitchens (Yes I know they have it on the DB board, but you can't really go wrong with a few more, especially on things like washing machines and dishwashers).
3) Publish a standard design for multiplugs.
4) Publish a standard for 10cm long extension cords for their new plugs that allows people to plug a lot of transformer style plugs into a standard multilplug. This is the primary reason why people use adaptors IMO.
 

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Waste of time on the part of SABS. They should rather look at the engineering of it and realise that the angry pixies coming out of the wall don't care how many devices they go to. They should therefore rather focus on the following:
1) Fused plug sockets that limit the load to 16A
2) Encourage the use of residual current sockets in kitchens (Yes I know they have it on the DB board, but you can't really go wrong with a few more, especially on things like washing machines and dishwashers).
3) Publish a standard design for multiplugs.
4) Publish a standard for 10cm long extension cords for their new plugs that allows people to plug a lot of transformer style plugs into a standard multilplug. This is the primary reason why people use adaptors IMO.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the intentions was to deliberately make it difficult to plug too many things into a socket? At the time, I thought that this is just stupid, inviting people to jury rig connections.
Next, RCD devices in series is inherently a bad design.
Also, fusing sockets is inviting unnecessary tampering.
There are no easy answers to this issue.
The matter of standards for multiplugs has been attended to as far as I know. What is wrong is that it should be completely illegal to import and sell non approved products. That is where the system fails us all.
 

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I seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the intentions was to deliberately make it difficult to plug too many things into a socket? At the time, I thought that this is just stupid, inviting people to jury rig connections.
Next, RCD devices in series is inherently a bad design.
Also, fusing sockets is inviting unnecessary tampering.
There are no easy answers to this issue.
The matter of standards for multiplugs has been attended to as far as I know. What is wrong is that it should be completely illegal to import and sell non approved products. That is where the system fails us all.
They should rather make it easy for people to plug as many things into a safe socket than making it difficult to plug too many things into one socket.
On the RCD thing? Why is running them in series bad design?
If it is a well-designed fuse that is easy to replace, then the tampering goes down. And that actually solves the problem that the preventing people from overloading a socket tries to solve.
 

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Also the picture doesn't show anything about a rear-facing babyseat.

I believe regardless of the airbag issue there is a massive statistical difference between babies in the front vs at the rear.

You don't get ISOFIX on the front seat after all....
Come on man, wake up to the real world.

Front baby seat facing backward is not ideal, but is an approved and much needed ability.

How else do you think a parent is able to transport his/her 2 month baby when errands need to be run?

Yes, rear seat, rear facing with ISOfix for a new born baby is best. But then you need a person to care for the baby on the back seat.
 

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Yes, rear seat, rear facing with ISOfix for a new born baby is best. But then you need a person to care for the baby on the back seat.

No you don’t. They will be just fine.

Stop being paranoid.

I’ve raised two children with seats in the back that were rear facing and both parents in front at all times.

Perfectly woke in the real world thank you very much.

Helicopter parenting starting extra super early these days I see. Poor children.
 

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No you don’t. They will be just fine.

Stop being paranoid.

I’ve raised two children with seats in the back that were rear facing and both parents in front at all times.

Perfectly woke in the real world thank you very much.

Helicopter parenting starting extra super early these days I see. Poor children.

Raised 4 kids, with no kiddy chair, and they are all fine, they just giving the Oldman more grey hair than I need. :)
 

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Too many folks "patching" a solution, to a non existent problem. When they should be fixing the problem that exists between their ears.
 
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