Drugs,Weed & Hard drugs

[Happy Camper]

I know a few people who dabble with shrooms and LSD,Acid etc.
I stay friendly with them,but I dont see myself becoming friends with them.

I knew a few people who used Cocaine,Meth and Heroin
Promptly got the hell out of there,haven`t seen them since.

A few friends of mine use weed or marijuana.
Again I`d probably distance myself from them
I see the consumption of canabis for a 'high' as drug use.

Regular alcohol use is also off putting
I`ve been drunk, Its something I`d never want to experience ever again.

Yet smoking doesn`t bother me as much,as long as one doesnt do it around me.
However weed disturbs me a lot more.

Some people see weed as normal. :erm:

I assume most people avoid contact with hard drug users?
Alcohol seems to be normal in almost every context
'soft' drugs such as lsd,acid seem to be a grey area
I`m not sure where weed lies?

Personally I`d always avoid intoxicants and drugs.
I did really stupid stuff while drunk,I wouldn`t be able to live with myself if I hurt/killed someone else

Clearly you have no clue what you're talking about and you just sound like a fear mongering judgmental ******.

 

[copacetic]

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“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the Weather.”

 

[Maverick Jester]

This thread has made me nostalgic... Need to give my dealer a call...

 

[crysis]

This thread has made me nostalgic... Need to give my dealer a call...

Hahahahaha!

 

[AstroTurf]

This thread has made me nostalgic... Need to give my dealer a call...

When I get nostalgic I just watch My little pony, friendship is magic followed by Spongebob

 

[killadoob]

As for alcohol, totally agree.

Been to rehab for it before, and still drinking.

Rehab is for people who have serious addiction problems to hardcore drugs, alcohol really isn't rated as an addictive drug though, so to me i figure if you don't want to give up drinking you won't do it with rehab.

My dad gave up easily because for of us it's as simple as not having that first drink. So rehab is a bit silly for alcohol addiction. Unless for some people they physically crave alcohol but it isn't rated as a highly addictive substance. Nicotine i can understand and harder drugs but rehab for alcohol is rubbish and a waste of time. The question i would like to know without you flipping out and telling me how wrong i am is whether you can go without alcohol or do you suffer from withdrawal? My dad reckons there is no withdrawal, mostly from society yes because braais, parties etc seem boring and drunk people are annoying

 

[syntax]

Rehab is for people who have serious addiction problems to hardcore drugs, alcohol really isn't rated as an addictive drug though, so to me i figure if you don't want to give up drinking you won't do it with rehab.

My dad gave up easily because for of us it's as simple as not having that first drink. So rehab is a bit silly for alcohol addiction. Unless for some people they physically crave alcohol but it isn't rated as a highly addictive substance. Nicotine i can understand and harder drugs but rehab for alcohol is rubbish and a waste of time. The question i would like to know without you flipping out and telling me how wrong i am is whether you can go without alcohol or do you suffer from withdrawal? My dad reckons there is no withdrawal, mostly from society yes because braais, parties etc seem boring and drunk people are annoying

you have got to be kidding?
Alcohol can become extremely addictive. I agree you cannot get addicted as fast as with other drugs, but that certainly doesnt make it any less addictive once you have a dependency.

Add to that the fact that its legal and practically everywhere, makes it one tough bastard to shake.
As for withdrawal from alcohol after a serious dependency, you can actually die from it. I think (or hope) you are confusing how fast you get addicted to something with how addictive something can be once it has you

 

[crysis]

Rehab is for people who have serious addiction problems to hardcore drugs, alcohol really isn't rated as an addictive drug though, so to me i figure if you don't want to give up drinking you won't do it with rehab.

My dad gave up easily because for of us it's as simple as not having that first drink. So rehab is a bit silly for alcohol addiction. Unless for some people they physically crave alcohol but it isn't rated as a highly addictive substance. Nicotine i can understand and harder drugs but rehab for alcohol is rubbish and a waste of time. The question i would like to know without you flipping out and telling me how wrong i am is whether you can go without alcohol or do you suffer from withdrawal? My dad reckons there is no withdrawal, mostly from society yes because braais, parties etc seem boring and drunk people are annoying

Rehab for alcohol may be a waste of time depending on the rehab or depending on the person, but it certainly IS addictive. Dont kid your self.

 

[RiaX]

Some of the most interesting people I know take drugs.

Some of the most interesting people I know don't take drugs.

Some of the biggest idiots I know take drugs.

Some of the biggest idiots I know don't take drugs.

hahaha

 

[RiaX]

Nice thread, and some great opinions/stories. I believe alcohol is the worst - people do deranged things when drunk. Furthermore, I'm sure alcohol has ruined more lives (directly and indirectly) than any other drug/intoxicant? Herion and Opium are no go zones - highly addictive opiates which rapidly deteriorate the body and mind. Acid/LSD - crystalizes in your spine and never leaves your system. Shrooms and weed - I've never seen people do anything bad/evil/untoward while using these. A lot of highly successful corporate slaves prefer weed to alcohol when it comes to stress relieve and relaxation via an intoxicant.

Healthy mind and healthy body - must have a balance. And if you do consume soft intoxicants, moderation is the key - and this varies from person to person obviously.

im pretty sure the world would collapse if the harder stuff was available as easily as alcohol, people arent very intelligent especially in greater numbers (look at the evolution threads or the legalising weed threads and so on, if something makes someone feel good they will promote it, also look at homeopathy). People tend to forget what opium did to china. The brittish empire used opium to cripple the entire chinese state.

ironic the brittish people eventually got caught by morphine and diacetylmorphine (for those who dont know thats the actual name of heroin. Heroin is a tradename its the original developed by Bayer pharmaceuticals)

 

[copacetic]

*tears self away from keyboard*

 

[HideInLight]

Stoners at least have some predictable behavior so I generally don't mind them. Alchohol abusers, people on other stuff, it simply becomes too dangerous.

 

[Unhappy438]

Rehab is for people who have serious addiction problems to hardcore drugs, alcohol really isn't rated as an addictive drug though, so to me i figure if you don't want to give up drinking you won't do it with rehab.

My dad gave up easily because for of us it's as simple as not having that first drink. So rehab is a bit silly for alcohol addiction. Unless for some people they physically crave alcohol but it isn't rated as a highly addictive substance. Nicotine i can understand and harder drugs but rehab for alcohol is rubbish and a waste of time. The question i would like to know without you flipping out and telling me how wrong i am is whether you can go without alcohol or do you suffer from withdrawal? My dad reckons there is no withdrawal, mostly from society yes because braais, parties etc seem boring and drunk people are annoying

Alcohol isnt addictive , you cant be serious :erm:

 

[RiaX]

Alcohol isnt addictive , you cant be serious :erm:

alcohol isnt addictive itself, but people enjoy the effects of excessive alcohol and they get addicted to that. So in a sense its a behavioral addiction not a physical one. Something many people that are "for" drugs cant understand. Alcohol is as addictive as cannabis

 

[noxibox]

Acid / LSD = same thing
Dont think it could be classed as a "soft drug". I suspect more people have done crazy **** on that stuff than most of the other "hard drugs".

More than alcohol?

Some people see weed as normal. :erm:

Normal part of human behaviour, yes. Altering perceptions/consciousness that is. Almost everyone does it in some form or another.

I assume most people avoid contact with hard drug users?

Hard users of drugs or users of hard drugs? But then what does hard even mean?

 

[Jings]

alcohol isnt addictive itself, but people enjoy the effects of excessive alcohol and they get addicted to that. So in a sense its a behavioral addiction not a physical one. Something many people that are "for" drugs cant understand. Alcohol is as addictive as cannabis

Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is a sedative-hypnotic drug that acts on the human brain.

Quitting cold-turkey is dangerous if long term abuse has occurred. It can lead to epileptic fits, psychosis and memory loss.

The symptoms are more severe than with drugs such as heroin and they can persist for days.

Going to a rehab facility or hospital is important because they are able to provide medication to counteract the symptoms and monitor the condition.

 

[noxibox]

Some of the most interesting people I know take drugs.

Some of the most interesting people I know don't take drugs.

Some of the biggest idiots I know take drugs.

Some of the biggest idiots I know don't take drugs.

Exactly they're just normal people, not really distinguishable from anyone else.

And Im not judging. Its their choice. But dont expect me to pay for their medical or welfare while they sit at home, completely dependant on others.

I did a lot of sport in my younger days. Guess I should be denied medical care too.

Without hard drugs, I probably might never have achieved the things I have achieved.

Hard drugs ensured that the brains of my potential competitors where fried, so that I got the nod ahead of them

Keep it up. This keeps older folks in work as the druggies are completely useless and mostly unemployable

Wow, you not only have completely delusional beliefs about drug users, but think so little of yourself that you need to use those delusions to explain your own lack of failure.

 

[AstroTurf]

Rehab for alcohol may be a waste of time depending on the rehab or depending on the person, but it certainly IS addictive. Dont kid your self.

Rehab is a waste of time. 3% success rate. 3 out of 100 people that go into rehab are sober for a while when they come out. Relapse long term is another story (that brings the 3% down even further).

im pretty sure the world would collapse if the harder stuff was available as easily as alcohol, people arent very intelligent especially in greater numbers (look at the evolution threads or the legalising weed threads and so on, if something makes someone feel good they will promote it, also look at homeopathy). People tend to forget what opium did to china. The brittish empire used opium to cripple the entire chinese state.

ironic the brittish people eventually got caught by morphine and diacetylmorphine (for those who dont know thats the actual name of heroin. Heroin is a tradename its the original developed by Bayer pharmaceuticals)

The only collapse the world is seeing at this time is war.
a failed war on drugs. a failing war on terrorism. it's all bull**** and one huge income generator for everyone involved (the dealers/terrs/army/narcs/rehabs are all coining it and not solving anything in the process).

 

[syntax]

alcohol isnt addictive itself, but people enjoy the effects of excessive alcohol and they get addicted to that. So in a sense its a behavioral addiction not a physical one. Something many people that are "for" drugs cant understand. Alcohol is as addictive as cannabis

a quick google search shows that alcohol is physically addictive.
Which is why you get withdrawal (which can be life threatening)

 

[RiaX]

Ethanol or ethyl alcohol is a sedative-hypnotic drug that acts on the human brain.

Quitting cold-turkey is dangerous if long term abuse has occurred. It can lead to epileptic fits, psychosis and memory loss.

The symptoms are more severe than with drugs such as heroin and they can persist for days.

Going to a rehab facility or hospital is important because they are able to provide medication to counteract the symptoms and monitor the condition.

academic .... seldom used in practice. You have to be a very very very heavy alki to fall in this boat. I suppose it would also depend on the state of the liver.

Also know that ethanol is an endogenous compound in the body... and disulfram is a horrible thing lol

The only collapse the world is seeing at this time is war.
a failed war on drugs. a failing war on terrorism. it's all bull**** and one huge income generator for everyone involved (the dealers/terrs/army/narcs/rehabs are all coining it and not solving anything in the process).

well its happened before that is historic fact.

Secondly people want to do it and if there is demand there will always be supply it wont go away no matter what you do