#EducationWatch: Let’s pay learners to go to school

daveza

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https://www.iol.co.za/news/opinion/educationwatch-lets-pay-learners-to-go-to-school-29044752

When I saw that headline I was ready to wtf at another SJW type with some loony snowflake idea - until I read the article.

Would be interested in what y'all think.


Allow me to be creative today instead of appealing for reason, where fear-based governance in the province and in education have shut out the reasoning of leaders and created suffering of the masses.
Ask youth what they need - their general answer is “a job to help the family”. Can the schools offer jobs to them?


Yes, if we consider learning and earning as a way forward to ensure quality education that will cater for everyone’s needs. We’re not too poor to embark on it, but schools will become simultaneous employers of the youth through creative education and skills development.

To provide learners an income will place the needs of the family and students as the focal points of the service schools provide. Such schools won’t suffer the discontent other conventional schools suffer.

The thousands paid in wages for children will be far less than the millions lost through crime and corruption. Absenteeism will disappear.

This school will only have one curriculum - “Creative Progress”, which has at its core discovering the interest and talent of each child and harnessing it to ensure that each family connected to the school is provided with food, clothing, shelter and recreation for advancement.

It sounds exciting, but where will the money come from? From the millions spent on crime, courts, bloated salaries of ministers and monitors who want to force standardisation at the expense of creativity and safety.

By opening our schools to welcome the interests and skills of the children, and simultaneously providing the immediate needs of the school community, the school would be achieving the core point of education - self-reliance of the institution and its people.


Children who learn and earn will give their all to provide their best to the people who value them. Presently we don’t value our children, but expect them to value us as adults. What are we doing for them to make them feel valued?

The school garden would be the main feature of the school, instead of barbed wire. Our schools have become unsafe “prisons”. We should make them educational homes. All we need is the removal of standardised curricula and the useless institution of theoretical assessments and exams.

Present education is individualistic and that breeds protectionism within political parties and crime gangs, because of a lack of self-esteem in adults who weren’t taught to see beyond the basal needs of the self.

Viktor Frankl, an inmate of a concentration camp, witnessed that people have something more than the physical self when he saw dying inmates helping others more in need, at the expense of themselves.

When that need to care for others is blunted in our educational arena, we cease being human and our “conventionally educated councillors” will then find fining the homeless justified through existing inhuman policies.

That calls for an attempt to create an open school that offers children the chance to learn and earn while providing the needs of the community.

More cash will flow, crime will reduce, the economy will grow and human suffering will be alleviated.

Youth unemployment will be become non-existent.

* Dr Mogamat Faadiel Arnold is the Director of the ICRA Comprehensive School home-based tutorship service and a local & international education consultant.
 

STS

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This is actually a good idea and even if it fell into abuse, it wouldn't be much worse than the corruption we are experiencing now.

Imagine paying a bonus at the end of the year based on how many A's they get in matric
 

spiff

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our students are paid so I don't see the problem and they get paid when on OTJ training
 

Johnatan56

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My problem is it's open to abuse. If you add Mark requirements then you'll get kids ostracized/punished by parents for not succeeding.

Would work fine if like grade 10 upwards I think, at that point they should be able to not be too easily exploited by parents and discourages kids for even more money.
 

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My problem is it's open to abuse. If you add Mark requirements then you'll get kids ostracized/punished by parents for not succeeding.

Would work fine if like grade 10 upwards I think, at that point they should be able to not be too easily exploited by parents and discourages kids for even more money.
They do that already if the kids don't succeed? It is up to parents to provide the necessities in any case, it will just alleviate the burden by funding the kids uniform, textbooks, transport, food, etc. It is also not something that the kids can do forever as when you pass, you pass - you can't go back and pass again. You are spitting students out that are causing a bottleneck.
 

Johnatan56

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They do that already if the kids don't succeed? It is up to parents to provide the necessities in any case, it will just alleviate the burden by funding the kids uniform, textbooks, transport, food, etc. It is also not something that the kids can do forever as when you pass, you pass - you can't go back and pass again. You are spitting students out that are causing a bottleneck.
By succeed I mean don't score max marks as higher marks means more money, since you want to encourage them to succeed, rather than pass.
 

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Present education is individualistic and that breeds protectionism within political parties and crime gangs, because of a lack of self-esteem in adults who weren’t taught to see beyond the basal needs of the self.
Jesus H Christ.


because of a lack of self-esteem in adults who weren’t taught to see beyond the basal needs of the self.
The good author should list themselves up for organ donation, then shoot themselves in the head. I mean after all:
witnessed that people have something more than the physical self when he saw dying inmates helping others more in need, at the expense of themselves.
 

Beyond.Celsus

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A lot wrong with this.

Firstly, he suggests that we will save money from court, police etc that will fund this.
Yeah okay.
How?
You need funds already to start paying learners. so immediately cut already sparse funding everywhere else for years until this idea MAYBE starts working? Will be nothing left by then.

Secondly.
What do they do after school? Youth unemployment would be non-existent. Correct.
The problem? It's not the youth that needs jobs. It's the people who are suppose to look after the youth. Lots of well educated graduates sitting without work.

Which creates the 3rd problem
Why even graduate when you can get paid to sit on your arse at school?
You will have twenty somethings unwilling to pass. Not enough jobs will turn into not enough workers, because why work a tough job?

Lastly.
Violence, crime, hatred. All these things form part of the human condition.
NOTHING will cure this in some people.
Some people just want to destroy and hurt for the sake of it.

Dumb idea in my opinion.
 

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Jesus H Christ.

The good author should list themselves up for organ donation, then shoot themselves in the head. I mean after all:
They're not asking for handouts or entitlement or even blaming anyone, he suggested reward based on hard work - how is that an issue? Are bursaries not a thing?
 
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