EFF's red overalls and red berets plagerized from Venezuelan Marxist Party?

The Free Radical

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It looks like the EFF's red overalls and red berets aren't that original when it comes to Marxist parties.
Venezuelan's tin pot dictator Nicolas Maduro and Melema sem to be two peas in a pod.
I hope Malema is taking notes on the 'success' of Marxism in his hero's failed country (Venezuela)


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...I hope Malema is taking notes on the 'success' of Marxism in his hero's failed country (Venezuela)
Do you think he cares whether the country fails or not? He (like all politicians) are in it for their agenda. Show me an honest politician, and I'll call you a liar.

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Nope, red is the colour of communism which is target towards industrial workers. It just a common motif for communism
 

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Do you think he cares whether the country fails or not?
It's worse than that, I fear.

I suspect he genuinely believes with religious fervor that his policies are just and best for society. That means he can't be persuaded otherwise. With all the best intentions he and his fellow-travellers will keep on driving and relentlessly pushing to implement their vision of a People's Socialist Republic.

Common crooks can more easily be reformed - they know they're wrong and lack only the moral resolve to stop their criminal ways.

Committed ideologues, on the other hand, who believe they are right and virtuous, are much harder to stop and change. They sincerely believe their motives are pure and untainted by selfishness, and so they keep on pushing and driving and agitating and working without let-up or rest.

Committed do-gooders with the wrong policies and goals can do a lot more damage than mere crooks and baddies, Chesterton observed. St Bernard of Clairvaux put it starkly: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions". Meaning well and good intentions are insufficient - both the means and the ends must also be good.

Malema means well, I suspect. But he's about as wrong as one can be about both the means and the end.

And because he's a charismatic demagogue and a genuinely nice guy, he's especially dangerous.
 

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It's worse than that, I fear.

I suspect he genuinely believes with religious fervor that his policies are just and best for society. That means he can't be persuaded otherwise. With all the best intentions he and his fellow-travellers will keep on driving and relentlessly pushing to implement their vision of a People's Socialist Republic.

Common crooks can more easily be reformed - they know they're wrong and lack only the moral resolve to stop their criminal ways.

Committed ideologues, on the other hand, who believe they are right and virtuous, are much harder to stop and change. They sincerely believe their motives are pure and untainted by selfishness, and so they keep on pushing and driving and agitating and working without let-up or rest.

Committed do-gooders can do a lot more damage than mere crooks and baddies, Chesterton observed. St Bernard of Clairvaux put it starkly: "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions". Meaning well and good intentions are insufficient - both the means and the ends must also be good.

Malema means well, I suspect. But he's about as wrong as one can be about both the means and the end.
I doubt Malema believes in the policies he espouses. He's always lived the life of a champagne socialist/communist all the while shouting slogans purporting the champion the poor and down trodden. He continues to do so along with all of his leadership cabal. They denounce corruption while they have their fingers deep in the same pie all their political lives.
 

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I doubt Malema believes in the policies he espouses. He's always lived the life of a champagne socialist/communist all the while shouting slogans purporting the champion the poor and down trodden. He continues to do so along with all of his leadership cabal. They denounce corruption while they have their fingers deep in the same pie all their political lives.
Yes that's of course quite possible. Nevertheless, I think Malema & Co have a sophisticated rationalisation and genuinely don't believe they are being hypocrites.

All this is pure conjecture, of course.

I can see a way in which a committed African Socialist can justify the champagne lifestyle in a way that doesn't compromise the ideological core. It goes something like this:

"The current neoliberal regime of property, ownership, government, tenders, service provision, banking, public & private finance, etc, etc is fundamentally illegitimate and unjust, and its hegemony is entrenched. In the heroic and virtuous struggle to usurp the Imperialist-Colonialist-Racist Capitalist class and their structures of bondage it is perfectly legitimate to use their own structures and mechanisms against the racist-monopolist-colonialist perpetrators, like a sort of political-economic ju-jitsu. So, by using and subverting neoliberal tender processes and exploiting gaps in capitalist banking controls, the revolutionary avant-garde help to delegitimise the capitalist structures and hasten their collapse. There is no contradiction between those noble ends and allowing the heroic cadres to enjoy some of the fruits they have so long been denied, like Breitlings and BMWs."
 
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Red has been the colour of revolutionaries and communists for over 100 years now. The Barret too, Cuba I think popularized the Barret for revolutions, but red goes back way father to the earliest days of the Russian revolution.
 
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