King of de Jungle
- Mar 17, 2005
All the other ships should just file civil cases against that shipping company.
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Well, they got canal pilots to drive thru the canal.
eally this easy to block a Major shipping route?
so if a nation that isnt happy with world affairs decides to, they could quite easily strangle the world quite easily.
I mean North Korea, they could sail their 10 ships into the suez canal, run them aground and pretty much choke the world into submitting to their will.
maybe instead of Nukes, countries could do this instead.
Im sure there are, but what do you do, when your Ruler had decreed that you must use your ship, as a physical blockade?
I mean fill your ship up with Cement about halfway through transiting the canal.
dont discount all the people that might show up and loot the ship very quickly if the situation goes on any longer.
Yes it is this easy to block a major shipping route when that shipping route is only as wide as the Suez. Its not the first time something like this has happened and it won't be the last, and no it doesn't strangle the world it just means shipping takes longer as there are alternate routes if it goes on for an extended period of time. But no, North Korea couldn't just sail their 10 ships into the Suez Canal and run them aground... they would be blocked before they got that far as the activity would be very obviously odd.
Why would they need Cement? Just scuttle the ship. No need to carry expensive concrete and do stupid **** that requires timing to get it to set or anything like that...
Yeah cool, the Arabs are just going to rock up and carry those containers off on their backs.... Actually fsck it, I'd pay fscking good money to see them try loot the ship... chances are the ship has armed guards on it given that it has just transited through the Gulf of Aden.
so were agreed its super easy to block a Shipping lane?
ok, cool, how about creating a Major obstacle to world trade, besides scuttling the ship, make it even harder to remove the obstacle. use cement in the hold to create a Major blockage that will take months if not years to clear.
if only to protest something the UN has done to your country, but you want to avoid killing people.
agreed, plenty of other routes, but to add another 3 weeks around CPT, drive up prices, will affect lots of things.
so knock on effects will show up slowly.
as for looting, enough people that will quickly desend on the ship to loot cargo,
+1cheapskate cargo ships usually only have 1 prop,
dont even sail under the ship owners flag, usually a flag of convenience like Liberia, or Marshall islands.
And your looting theory is retarded, plain and simple. You clearly have zero fscking idea just how large those ships actually are, and how big a bloody container is and how the ships are stacked.
yes they are large, but how difficult is it to get people out to loot a cargo ship?
I mean its not moving, its stuck in the middle of the canal, in a desert.
first few would probably rig up some way of getting on board,
and transferring cargo to shore,
Ever Given?It's still there....
EVER GIVEN last position is 30.36126 N, 32.38356 E heading to Rotterdam, Netherlands with speed of 0.2 knots. TRACK ON MAP...vesselfinder.com
if you say so, but then again never underestimate desperate people and their ingenuity.No, they are fscking massive... not just large, and its very difficult to get a people on board without being noticed, especially with 5 or 6 tugs around, and armed guards on board etc etc...
You are just spinning absolute bollocks.
if you say so, but then again never underestimate desperate people and their ingenuity.
If I have to spend R10K a month on product liability insurance, I'm sure they have something similar for ships.
But they register these things in Panama because Panama are rather lax in their regulations of shipping. These shipping companies use Panama to escape stricter home country regulations and flying Panama flag allows them to also run on cheap foreign labour which would otherwise not be allowed in their home territories.Maritime law is really complex, but I'm pretty sure that any ship transiting a canal must have third party insurance, if not just for mechanical breakdown. Seem unlikely that other operators would try to claim for a few hours delay.
Edit: The OP link says the ship is registered in Panama, which is a moderately respectable country.