Elon Musk slams Apple after company pauses Twitter advertising

[r00igev@@r]

And freedom of association or the free market for that matter. Apple can choose whom they associated with and where they place their ads or is Elon backtracking on his "Freedom" stance?

And if they want to enforce certain standards on their platform and the apps that reside there, it's their right. On top of that, he is being completely and utterly false when he goes on about the "secret" 30% "tax" from apple on apps and transactions. Everyone knows about it. Nothing new there. And they are not the only ones levelling those kinds of percentages. Steam anyone?

I can't afford an apple so I don't give a fat putty what they do.

Just happy that they are upsetting the snowflakes.

 

[RonSwanson]

What were the search terms? Child porn and human trafficking related?

I dunno, ask the source. Largely an irrelevant argument, because it is not in Apple's scope. IBM / Dell / Lenovo / HP do not impose such prescriptive measures on software.

 

[RonSwanson]

Can you give an example where they gave a pass for black supremacy vs white supremacy?

Obtuse much? Don't be silly now.

 

[cerebus]

Obtuse much? Don't be silly now.

I'm not being obtuse, asking for a concrete example to look at.

 

[SlinkyMike]

What were the search terms? Child porn and human trafficking related?

Exactly. Free speech absolutists are absolute nutcases. Ask them to name the things they want people to be able to "Free Speech" about and you'll see them STFU fast. The world they are advocating is a vile and hideous hellscape by any sane assessment. I'm not for government censorship in principle but I don't want unfettered access to CP either, obviously.

I dunno, ask the source. Largely an irrelevant argument, because it is not in Apple's scope. IBM / Dell / Lenovo / HP do not impose such prescriptive measures on software.

Fail. IBM/Dell/Lenovo do not have App Stores so they do not curate content, besides Google would "censor" that kind of thing in any case. Nice try budget Ron Swanson but you are not comparing apples with apples (har!) here.

 

[cerebus]

Exactly. Free speech absolutists are absolute nutcases. Ask them to name the things they want people to be able to "Free Speech" about and you'll see them STFU fast. The world they are advocating is a vile and hideous hellscape by any sane assessment. I'm not for government censorship in principle but I don't want unfettered access to CP either, obviously.

Even if you did want unfettered access to all that.... stuff.... it isn't good business. Apple always maintained a family-friendly app community with high levels of moderation because if their app store becomes infested with all the vile hate speech and other content that comes with absolute free speech, people will ditch them.

 

[SlinkyMike]

Even if you did want unfettered access to all that.... stuff.... it isn't good business. Apple always maintained a family-friendly app community with high levels of moderation because if their app store becomes infested with all the vile hate speech and other content that comes with absolute free speech, people will ditch them.

Exactly. I posted a long description of Brand Safety yesterday but instead of learning anything they all piled on and asked why I was crying?

 

[RonSwanson]

I'm not being obtuse, asking for a concrete example to look at.

Yes you are. Examples are as common as the hairs in your nose, all you need to do is open your eyes.

Fail. IBM/Dell/Lenovo do not have App Stores so they do not curate content, besides Google would "censor" that kind of thing in any case. Nice try budget Ron Swanson but you are not comparing apples with apples (har!) here.

I disagree. Microsoft also has an app store, so does Huawei and Google. None of them are as prescriptive as apple.

Have you ever answered a tender to supply even a tiny hardware component to apple? Seen the mountains upon mountains of paperwork and compliance documents that you have to fill in? I have managed plenty like that, and I can safely say that they are the most pedantic, paranoid and prescriptive Nanny company that I have ever had to deal with. Their requirements are so strict and prescriptive that it automatically rules out any medium to smallish company (under 5,000 global employees), one has to be a global giant to even consider reading the tender, never mind submitting it (after signing it several times in the blood of the CEO, CFO, CSO and CTO).

 

[Pegasus]

Exactly. I posted a long description of Brand Safety yesterday but instead of learning anything they all piled on and asked why I was crying?

Everybody knows about brand safety. You only learnt about it 2 days ago.

What you failed to explain is why it became an issue only 4 weeks ago when Elon took over twitter.

You also can't explain how Apple keeps tiktok on its app store, why they disabled airplay for the CCP, and knock yourself out with some more brand safety at Apple:

Apple Inc. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[prod]

Everybody knows about brand safety. You only learnt about it 2 days ago.

What you failed to explain is why it became an issue only 4 weeks ago when Elon took over twitter.

You also can't explain how Apple keeps tiktok on its app store, why they disabled airplay for the CCP, and knock yourself out with some more brand safety at Apple:

Apple Inc. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They didn't disable AP, they made it so you can't have it always on, instead it turns off after 10mins. They can still use it just like before, but will have to turn it back on every 10mins.

Edit: in addition to that, that is for non-contacts ONLY.

 

[Pegasus]

They didn't disable AP, they made it so you can't have it always on, instead it turns off after 10mins. They can still use it just like before, but will have to turn it back on every 10mins.

Edit: in addition to that, that is for non-contacts ONLY.

Sure.
So it’s useless for protesters in Only China now.

Apple limited a crucial AirDrop function in China just weeks before protests

AirDrop has become an important tool in protestors' efforts to circumvent authoritarian censorship regimes over recent years.

www.cnbc.com

Want to defend this as well?

Report: Apple told Apple TV+ creators to avoid portraying China ‘in a poor light’

As Apple faces pushback over its decision to remove a Hong Kong protest tracking app from the App Store, a...

9to5mac.com

 

[prod]

Sure.
So it’s useless for protesters in Only China now.

Apple limited a crucial AirDrop function in China just weeks before protests

AirDrop has become an important tool in protestors' efforts to circumvent authoritarian censorship regimes over recent years.

www.cnbc.com

Want to defend this as well?

Report: Apple told Apple TV+ creators to avoid portraying China ‘in a poor light’

As Apple faces pushback over its decision to remove a Hong Kong protest tracking app from the App Store, a...

9to5mac.com

I'm not defending it, I'm correcting your incorrect statement.

 

[Pegasus]

I'm not defending it, I'm correcting your incorrect statement.

Fair enough.

 

[SlinkyMike]

Everybody knows about brand safety. You only learnt about it 2 days ago.

If they do then they are unable to connect that information to current events. Also: over twenty years in the ad world, couple of Loeries and a Cannes Lions trophy but sure, I only learned about Brand Safety yesterday.

What you failed to explain is why it became an issue only 4 weeks ago when Elon took over twitter.

You got all touchy when I explained that it is about public opinion which as of Elon's takeover is total garbage wrt Twitter. Hell even TSLA is down since these shenanigns.
Since you are such a marketing genius you are aware of course that Twitter has lost not only Apple but VW, GM, Chevrolet, Merck, Coca Cola and I think Ford? Not sure about the last one and there may be more already.

You also can't explain how Apple keeps tiktok on its app store, why they disabled airplay for the CCP, and knock yourself out with some more brand safety at Apple:

Apple Inc. - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

See above, if you can chill your feels long enough to read something without having a right wing conniption.

 

[Pegasus]

If they do then they are unable to connect that information to current events. Also: over twenty years in the ad world, couple of Loeries and a Cannes Lions trophy but sure, I only learned about Brand Safety yesterday.



You got all touchy when I explained that it is about public opinion which as of Elon's takeover is total garbage wrt Twitter. Hell even TSLA is down since these shenanigns.
Since you are such a marketing genius you are aware of course that Twitter has lost not only Apple but VW, GM, Chevrolet, Merck, Coca Cola and I think Ford? Not sure about the last one and there may be more already.


See above, if you can chill your feels long enough to read something without having a right wing conniption.

Cool story.
And all this started happening 4 weeks ago…

 

[R13...]

Even if you did want unfettered access to all that.... stuff.... it isn't good business. Apple always maintained a family-friendly app community with high levels of moderation because if their app store becomes infested with all the vile hate speech and other content that comes with absolute free speech, people will ditch them.

Perhaps Apple should wait and see if Twitter turns into parlor or whatever that other right-wing twitter knock off is before they threaten or pull advertising. Why did they even pull their advertising? Dear that Twitter is going to go full retard?

Look, Musk may well let it be a free for all if the right make up the revenue shortfall he loses when others jump ship. Let's not be fooled here, he's there to try recoup his disastrous financial mistake. Sucking up to the right might have some financial benefit in the short term and he probably hopes trump returns to help a bit, but he may be betting on the wrong horse there too. More so given that De Sanctimonious is in his corner and Trump with his thin skin will see some slight in that. Can't imagine De Sanctimonious being too happy having trump back on the platform making more disparaging remarks against him.

 

[mr_norris]

Poor billionaire begging for money. Don't know why people idolize him, or any other billionaire for that matter.

 

[R13...]

Poor billionaire begging for money. Don't know why people idolize him, or any other billionaire for that matter.

Same reason people join cults and support personality cults I think.

 

[greg0205]

Oh…

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1598014468172152841

 

[RedViking]

Oh…

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1598014468172152841