Elon Musk slams Apple after company pauses Twitter advertising

am-user

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He bought himself a financial hole. Best he stops digging to get out of it. Would love to see him handling the self-deplatformation of his app
 

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Musk should simply cool down IOS app development and rather focus on getting Twitter to run really well as a PWA.

I do wonder what will be the limit for what iSheep will deepthroat? When Apple blocks specific URLs from loading on their devices? They will probably baa and clap at how pappa Apple is protecting them from nasty rocketman.
 

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The Instagram algorithm has been wonky for years now for instance. People adapt, New platforms rise (Vero).
We will see what happens but it will look very bad for the Apple brand if the block an app for childish reason.
 

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If you believe Musk. Do you?
At the moment its actually all hypothetical. The whole thing about his own phone company, was in response to some tweet from someone else and said it would not be favorable but as a last resort. Again , hypothetically, if they cut the app from the store, all he's asked is why so likely there has been some indicator that its being considered but only he knows his sources or Apple could publicly deny it on the platform. Either way, no facts yet, just speculation of if this or that.
 

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And do remember that Google removed Trump's app from the Play Store, while it was always available on the App Store.
That was very clearly defined and within the rules for the store, that the app required moderation and that functionality had to be enabled. It was a technical issue, not a political one as much as politicians want to dramatizise it.
 

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Musk has an excellent point though and it raises the whole Fortnite issue again about the 30% Apple tax. Not that I would use any other brand for most of my tech. It’s because they can… But it’s not right.

Corporates and left wing politicians are birds of a feather in how they milk the ‘we care the most’ facade while continuing to plunder.

What are you even on about now?

Musk is upset Apple isn't advertising on the platform. They're allowed to do that you know?
 

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Musk should simply cool down IOS app development and rather focus on getting Twitter to run really well as a PWA.

I do wonder what will be the limit for what iSheep will deepthroat? When Apple blocks specific URLs from loading on their devices? They will probably baa and clap at how pappa Apple is protecting them from nasty rocketman.
The Android Twitter Lite app is basically a PWA.

It's just a glorified icon that loads an in-line Chrome tab.

It doesn't matter for how good it is, you will still lose a boat load of people because "it's not in the store, oh well".
 
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konfab

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The Android Twitter Lite app is basically a PWA.

It's just a glorified icon that loads an in-line Chrome tab.

It doesn't matter for good it is, you will still lose a boat load of people because "it's not in the store, oh well".
That is why the best thing for Musk to do right now is to silently get people to move over to a proper PWA. That way he can tell Apple to f_off with the 30% Apple store cut.
 

Kosmik

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What are you even on about now?

Musk is upset Apple isn't advertising on the platform. They're allowed to do that you know?
Apple are very heavy handed with developers. The 30% is one side, another is the inability to choose to use your own payment platform. The recent rulings and app removals ( we have a few ) have to do with forcing app transactions to go through in app purchases so that Apple can get its cut.

Here's an example. We've had app/apps rejected because one of the tabs or menu items go to that companies website. On their website, they appeal for donations or do transactions. This was blocked. The company had to add a custom style that when the app called their webpage, it did not bring up the financial footers or others. And yes, this was a basic redirect to a browser for that particular call, the apps are fully native and perform other functions, this was just so that the client could still share/display their website as well.
 

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That was very clearly defined and within the rules for the store, that the app required moderation and that functionality had to be enabled. It was a technical issue, not a political one as much as politicians want to dramatizise it.

And how do you know the same doesn't apply here? It's literally what I said in my post.
 

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And how do you know the same doesn't apply here? It's literally what I said in my post.
I was referring specifically to the Trump platform incident. The current claim ( of which we have no knowledge info ) is that its unspecified. He has asked publicly for what reason that may take place and will likely share one publicly if given, nothing stopping Apple either from publicly responding and pointing to the relevant section guidelines as a reason, that's perfectly reasonable.

I do think this whole thing is being blown of of proportion until something actually hits the table.
 

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Yeah, that's not great. Am all for Apple having the ability to curate certain types of Apps on their own platform but curating search terms on an existing app is very dodgy. Another reason for me to dislike Apple (not like I needed another one).
Yeah big tech is behaving like the evil monster they get made out to be. Monoliths.
 
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