Eskom’s plan to force people to switch off geysers and home appliances

[WalkWithMe]

The key is that the normal rate is dirt cheap so people actually invest in batteries without solar to charge during off peak and use during peak. That's the principle the Tesla Powerwall is based on.

Dirt cheap? Maybe rethink that.

 

[WalkWithMe]

Australia sucks. South Africa much better. You can EFF off back to the Congo and we can fix this country.

Excuse me?

 

[Thestealth]

Walk sew (Afrikaans)

 

[davepl]

Eskom’s plan to force people to switch off geysers and home appliances

Eskom wants to use smart meters to limit the electricity supply to households and force people to switch off their geysers and home appliances.

Middle class people have already reduced their consumption because they can't afford the electricity prices and increasing the prices would most probably reduce consumption even more. The problem lies with people who don't pay for electricity. They don't even have meters so smart meters won't help here, what they can do is just switch them off to reduce the load shedding that paying customers have to bear. I would love to know just how much generating capacity would be released if the non paying areas were switched off.

 

[CommonSense]

And then they will switch off your solar power when their is loadshedding, like they did with Frankfort.

You must really drop the Frankfort b.s. story. The fault lies with the Munisipality and the ServiceProvider on that one. Don't fall for idiots on Youtube who try to spin a story.

 

[CommonSense]

Is it just me or don't they get it if you switch it off will still only use the 2or so hrs just at a later time

Or do they actually mean switch it of and leave it off

THIS. Exactly.

They are dumb a.f.
They learned that geysers use "x", so if we can eliminate "x times number of households" that will spare us y stages of loadshedding. They don't realize that at some point those switched off systems MUST be brought back online again in order to heat the geyser etc.

Idiots don't know that they are ALREADY switching off all geysers in an area during loadshedding, and that even that is not going to be enough, hence in winter, higher number stages will need to be implemented and thus more entire areas (including geysers) will be switched off.

 

[leon.davibe]

THIS. Exactly.

They are dumb a.f.
They learned that geysers use "x", so if we can eliminate "x times number of households" that will spare us y stages of loadshedding. They don't realize that at some point those switched off systems MUST be brought back online again in order to heat the geyser etc.

Idiots don't know that they are ALREADY switching off all geysers in an area during loadshedding, and that even that is not going to be enough, hence in winter, higher number stages will need to be implemented and thus more entire areas (including geysers) will be switched off.

Switching off a geyser that might not have been on saves nothing

And naturally switching them off just changes the random runtimes spreading out over time to all swiyching on at the same time after extended cooldown time

Creating a bigger peak spike

Gaysers are one of the big pull devices so now we will just have 3 peak times instead of 2 when they all kick in at the same time

 

[Sapphiron]

Switching off a geyser that might not have been on saves nothing

And naturally switching them off just changes the random runtimes spreading out over time to all swiyching on at the same time after extended cooldown time

Creating a bigger peak spike

Gaysers are one of the big pull devices so now we will just have 3 peak times instead of 2 when they all kick in at the same time

Its already starting to happen as people have more and more inverters and batteries. each time after load shedding, there is a big battery recharge spike.

 

[leon.davibe]

Its already starting to happen as people have more and more inverters and batteries. each time after load shedding, there is a big battery recharge spike.

Now yes the solar panel owners offset some of that in the day

ie only battery backup uses more

But panel owners even their normal usage is of the grid

We simply have no statistics to know

What i do know is eskom is producing less/less

ie generating capacity in mid 90's was 38000MW

Demand in 2023 april was
31000MW

Eskom generating capacity 2023 50 000MW

Rounded up

It doesn't take a rocket scientist
To figure out that we should not be having load shedding

Yet here we are

Lets not forget the actual villain

 

[WalkWithMe]

THIS. Exactly.

They are dumb a.f.
They learned that geysers use "x", so if we can eliminate "x times number of households" that will spare us y stages of loadshedding. They don't realize that at some point those switched off systems MUST be brought back online again in order to heat the geyser etc.

Idiots don't know that they are ALREADY switching off all geysers in an area during loadshedding, and that even that is not going to be enough, hence in winter, higher number stages will need to be implemented and thus more entire areas (including geysers) will be switched off.

Switching off a geyser that might not have been on saves nothing

And naturally switching them off just changes the random runtimes spreading out over time to all swiyching on at the same time after extended cooldown time

Creating a bigger peak spike

Gaysers are one of the big pull devices so now we will just have 3 peak times instead of 2 when they all kick in at the same time

Not as dumb as they commenting, maybe read the quote from Eskom. They will limit supply to a house to a lower power consumption, which will then force people to decide on the high current device to switch off. i.e. you will only get a trickle amount of electricity instead of a dead off for a period of time (i.e. load reduction shedding). How is this worse than load shedding which is a dead off?

 

[ConfusedR]

Just ban electricity and make it like it was before the white devil arrived.

Africans wanted to decolonize everything and so why are they using electricity.

 

[leon.davibe]

Not as dumb as they commenting, maybe read the quote from Eskom. They will limit supply to a house to a lower power consumption, which will then force people to decide on the high current device to switch off. i.e. you will only get a trickle amount of electricity instead of a dead off for a period of time (i.e. load reduction shedding). How is this worse than load shedding which is a dead off?

It is technically the same thing

Our work days revolve around certain hrs and thus why we have peak times

Some of those peak times is simply impossible to shift

And the fact that they are even suggesting it just show how stupid they really are

 

[StBlade]

R16 billion can be better spend on issuing solar systems to people on a lease to own system.

..... But then the cadres won't eat.

 

[noxibox]

Middle class people have already reduced their consumption because they can't afford the electricity prices and increasing the prices would most probably reduce consumption even more. The problem lies with people who don't pay for electricity. They don't even have meters so smart meters won't help here, what they can do is just switch them off to reduce the load shedding that paying customers have to bear. I would love to know just how much generating capacity would be released if the non paying areas were switched off.

Which areas have people legally connected to the supply with no meter on the connection?

 

[WalkWithMe]

It is technically the same thing

Our work days revolve around certain hrs and thus why we have peak times

Some of those peak times is simply impossible to shift

And the fact that they are even suggesting it just show how stupid they really are

Eskom is not the first to suggest and just following many other countries and utility companies who have been doing this for years....
Again, would you prefer a dead no power or a little power with reduced current?