Eskom announces stage 2 load-shedding

Jet-Fighter7700 said:
conspiracy spin? or uncomfortable fact nobody wants to mention?
as why does it seem like they load shed during certain events and not during others?

I know I must sound crazy, but the load shedding on and off and yes and no, is really bad, and just happens to coincide with other events, sure the perfectly reasonable explanation is the infrastructure is old, but I believe there is more to that,

ADR/Carte blanche revealed all, and what was revealed isnt a SOE in good health, full of bureaucracy, petty decisions out of spite,
factions fighting for power gain, and corruption, loads and loads of corruption at the highest levels.

most of it inst explained away with a graph or a press release.
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Really, so what event does this loadshedding co-incide with? Please explain in detail how broken power stations that are nearing 50 years old are somehow linked to these events? Also please explain what event 2022 and 2023 was seeing as those were the years of extreme load shedding.
I mean literally have 300 days of no LS and when it comes back people lose their minds, there is no conspiracy, the events are simple, the power stations are old, they're busy moving Kusile units on to the new flue so that is generation we had last year removed, Koeberg unit 1 is still not up and running and Medupi unit 4 isn't on the grid either.
There is your events, there is not enough power for the demand, same as it always is. Not sure how hard this is to comprehend?
What has any other event got to do with Eskom cutting power I have no idea.
 
Lupus said:
Really, so what event does this loadshedding co-incide with? Please explain in detail how broken power stations that are nearing 50 years old are somehow linked to these events? Also please explain what event 2022 and 2023 was seeing as those were the years of extreme load shedding.
I mean literally have 300 days of no LS and when it comes back people lose their minds, there is no conspiracy, the events are simple, the power stations are old, they're busy moving Kusile units on to the new flue so that is generation we had last year removed, Koeberg unit 1 is still not up and running and Medupi unit 4 isn't on the grid either.
There is your events, there is not enough power for the demand, same as it always is. Not sure how hard this is to comprehend?
What has any other event got to do with Eskom cutting power I have no idea.
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all those events just happen to co-inside with other events, like VAT increase/decrease, afrikanner emigration, and other events,
you have to see a pattern here, as lots of other countries shift power around and don't need to do load shedding

most of the time all those events you mention DONT cause load shedding, but here in SA somebody so much as changes a power setting, load shedding almost immediately. not all of it is due to age and disrepair

too much of a co incidence to not be staged and engineered, and as ADR has revealed, the press statements and lies are an organization policy,
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
all those events just happen to co-inside with other events, like VAT increase/decrease, afrikanner emigration, and other events,
you have to see a pattern here, as lots of other countries shift power around and don't need to do load shedding

most of the time all those events you mention DONT cause load shedding, but here in SA somebody so much as changes a power setting, load shedding almost immediately. not all of it is due to age and disrepair

too much of a co incidence to not be staged and engineered, and as ADR has revealed, the press statements and lies are an organization policy,
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Wow just wow.
Did you conviently forget all the other years of load shedding? Was that just all coinciding with some event?
Think logically, what does any of that BS have to do with Eskom?
Eskom who've had a problem generating sufficient power for years, suddenly decides you know what 49 Afrikaners just left, time to LS. Or maybe you look at the first part, they have trouble generating sufficient supply since 2007/2008, yes we've had some good years, but they've not really gone and done a ton to resolve the first part.
So instead people jump to wild conclusions that make no sense, but for them that's the reason. Not the one that's been a problem for years and years. Honestly it does seem people are getting dumber. Or maybe the internet is just exposing them.
 
Bad Ballie said:
On the up side Eskom's excuses department is working well and exceeding expectations.
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Why would they need an excuse, we know the problem, it's not changed since 2008.
There is not enough power for demand.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
all those events just happen to co-inside with other events, like VAT increase/decrease, afrikanner emigration, and other events,
you have to see a pattern here, as lots of other countries shift power around and don't need to do load shedding

most of the time all those events you mention DONT cause load shedding, but here in SA somebody so much as changes a power setting, load shedding almost immediately. not all of it is due to age and disrepair

too much of a co incidence to not be staged and engineered, and as ADR has revealed, the press statements and lies are an organization policy,
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Don't forget load shedding every time they don't get the price increases they want etc.
 
Lupus said:
Why would they need an excuse, we know the problem, it's not changed since 2008.
There is not enough power for demand.
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The 2008 load shedding wasn't need and was created to facilitate state capture and the bypassing of tender processes, this was reported several times, even if government and Eskom refute it. With the number of companies shutting their door I am not convinced that load shedding now, although due to incompetence and dodgy tenders I will accept that we not producing the electricity we should be.
 
Bad Ballie said:
Don't forget load shedding every time they don't get the price increases they want etc.
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engineered, how suddenly during elections we become Switzerland, or the RWC and WC and other big events,
suddenly no problem, power in spades, almost as if a switch was flicked from working to broken.

the question I have is, how high does this go, and how big is this conspiracy?
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
engineered, how suddenly during elections we become Switzerland, or the RWC and WC and other big events,
suddenly no problem, power in spades, almost as if a switch was flicked from working to broken.

the question I have is, how high does this go, and how big is this conspiracy?
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There isn't a conspiracy there, there is not enough power for demand. How hard is this to comprehend? Or do you not realise you're living in Africa and that most of it is a shytehole? I am guessing you live in the WC and don't realise how bad the rest of SA is.
 
Bad Ballie said:
The 2008 load shedding wasn't need and was created to facilitate state capture and the bypassing of tender processes, this was reported several times, even if government and Eskom refute it. With the number of companies shutting their door I am not convinced that load shedding now, although due to incompetence and dodgy tenders I will accept that we not producing the electricity we should be.
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Oh right amazing how that perfectly aligns with the lack of power stations. You do know correlation does not imply causation right?
Plus why did we have LS in 2015, 2018,19,20,21,22,23 and still now on and off?
 
Bad Ballie said:
Don't forget load shedding every time they don't get the price increases they want etc.
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So you're saying 2022 and 2023 was just cause they didn't get increases for almost an entire year. Wow they really are super powerful.
Also how does that actually work? You don't get the increase, so lets cut off power, the source of our income? I mean wow the logic that comes from people is astounding.
When we already know the problem and it's not changed, there is not enough power, they've barely built any new ones in 31 years. The ANC is incompetent, they only look after themselves. Plus in reality the constant loadshedding hurt them in 2024
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
engineered, how suddenly during elections we become Switzerland, or the RWC and WC and other big events,
suddenly no problem, power in spades, almost as if a switch was flicked from working to broken.

the question I have is, how high does this go, and how big is this conspiracy?
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You mean that World Cup weekend where they pushed foot flat on diesel burn and recklessly ran the power stations into the ground leading shortly afterwards to a significant collapse?

I remember that. Not sure you do though.
 
porchrat said:
You mean that World Cup weekend where they pushed foot flat on diesel burn and recklessly ran the power stations into the ground leading shortly afterwards to a significant collapse?

I remember that. Not sure you do though.
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You mean like they do often when they have high maintenance and why we end up with LS, like these evening peaks and previous LS sessions. Plus this year the weather has been extreme up here, lots of flooding, power stations don't like water besides what it's being boiled.
 
Jet-Fighter7700 said:
engineered, how suddenly during elections we become Switzerland, or the RWC and WC and other big events,
suddenly no problem, power in spades, almost as if a switch was flicked from working to broken.

the question I have is, how high does this go, and how big is this conspiracy?
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Stop taking AdR's book as the gospel...
 
Neptuner said:
Stop taking AdR's book as the gospel...
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Don't know why people would take it as gospel. Yes he was right on the sabotage, but we pretty much suspected that anyway. His saying last year that the only reason they staved off LS for so long was they were burning diesel at a rate of knots when at that point they'd literally not used diesel for an entire month.
 
Lupus said:
Don't know why people would take it as gospel. Yes he was right on the sabotage, but we pretty much suspected that anyway. His saying last year that the only reason they staved off LS for so long was they were burning diesel at a rate of knots when at that point they'd literally not used diesel for an entire month.
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He proved to everyone who knows anything about the power industry that he is clearly out of touch.
 
Lupus said:
You mean like they do often when they have high maintenance and why we end up with LS, like these evening peaks and previous LS sessions. Plus this year the weather has been extreme up here, lots of flooding, power stations don't like water besides what it's being boiled.
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It's insanely reckless short-term thinking.

I agree there are times they almost seem to magically "fix" the loadshedding issue. However it's never for more than a few days and it always comes with significant consequences afterwards. (generating units detonating under the extreme load etc.). They clearly stress the system beyond what it should reliably be run at just to score political points.

The idea that loadshedding is being faked is so out there it's laughable.
 
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