Eskom announces top 10 municipalities and metros that owe it the most money

richjdavies said:
It's Eskom direct there not "Soweto city", so it's thousands of non payers not one big municipality (I presume?)
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So the direct one's dont appear under this list and there's just a giant category of other nonpayers across the country?

Like 50bn for municipalities and then a giant hole for other?
 
What twist my nuts the wrong way is that we PAY OUR F_CKING BILLS !!! :mad: but our municipality doesn't now we get penalized. Tell me how the hell that works. Please explain it to me in 4k with all the AI glory that you can muster. I want to know what happens to the money.
 
Jackal46 said:
What twist my nuts the wrong way is that we PAY OUR F_CKING BILLS !!! :mad: but our municipality doesn't now we get penalized. Tell me how the hell that works. Please explain it to me in 4k with all the AI glory that you can muster. I want to know what happens to the money.
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Tell us how you are getting penalised?
 
Jackal46 said:
What twist my nuts the wrong way is that we PAY OUR F_CKING BILLS !!! :mad: but our municipality doesn't now we get penalized. Tell me how the hell that works. Please explain it to me in 4k with all the AI glory that you can muster. I want to know what happens to the money.
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How are you being penalised?

You have power, and are paying for it.

The fact that your municipality isn't paying those funds over to Eskom is a different issue.
 
Everybody with Eskom power gets penalized as Eskom continues to increase the price. Simple really.
 
ToxicBunny said:
How are you being penalised?

You have power, and are paying for it.

The fact that your municipality isn't paying those funds over to Eskom is a different issue.
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Municipality gets charges interest. Rate payers pay that, not the officials
 
I mean with any other supplier it's sort of tough luck for the end user. If you pay for something and then the retailer pockets the money and doesn't pay their suppliers at some point the supplier says "no more".

A bit of me feels this needs to happen this way and force Eskom to supply directly through taking over Municipality infrastructure through the courts. Almost like the gov needs to get moving to gracefully let that happen and not take years of court wrangling every time.

Basically the municipality not paying it's bills needs to be enforced by the usual liqudiaiton / business rescue process...
In the mean time people need to have alternatives or move or vote in someone else. Sucks to be you?
 
richjdavies said:
I mean with any other supplier it's sort of tough luck for the end user. If you pay for something and then the retailer pockets the money and doesn't pay their suppliers at some point the supplier says "no more".

A bit of me feels this needs to happen this way and force Eskom to supply directly through taking over Municipality infrastructure through the courts. Almost like the gov needs to get moving to gracefully let that happen and not take years of court wrangling every time.

Basically the municipality not paying it's bills needs to be enforced by the usual liquidation / business rescue process...
In the mean time people need to have alternatives or move or vote in someone else. Sucks to be you?
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Here is the plan: https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/municipalities-apply-eskom-debt-relief
“The debt-relief arrangement for Eskom outlined in the 2023 Budget noted that a large proportion of outstanding municipal debt is owed to Eskom. National government has introduced support to relieve municipalities of debt to Eskom.

“The debt…will be written off over a three-year period, in equal annual tranches. This is provided the municipality complies with set conditions. These conditions include enforcing strict credit controls, enhanced revenue collection [and] up-to-date payment of Eskom monthly current account.

“The ultimate goal is the profound transformation of these municipalities, by empowering them to build financial resilience, amplify their capacity to generate sustainable revenue, and rekindle a culture of paying for services rendered,” Godongwana said.
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It'll be great to get some reporter of some website / newspaper to dig up information on the above arrangements. ;) @Daniel Puchert
Things like:
How many of the municipalities on this are honouring the arrangement.
Which municipalities abandoned the arrangement
When will the first write off happen
 
gotaway said:
Here is the plan: https://www.sanews.gov.za/south-africa/municipalities-apply-eskom-debt-relief

“The debt…will be written off over a three-year period, in equal annual tranches. This is provided the municipality complies with set conditions. These conditions include enforcing strict credit controls, enhanced revenue collection [and] up-to-date payment of Eskom monthly current account.
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This is not a serious plan. Treasury did not apply their minds. What's the incentive supposed to be? Why would any municipality enter into this arrangement or abide by it? It sounds like a lot more work than just continuing to do what they've always done, namely steal the money and rack up debt. So that's what they'll continue to do, and I don't blame them.

Solving this problem will require brainpower and some creativity.
 
The peasants getting free electricity about 90% of the population have no reason to change over to solar generation.
They are not the ones getting fusked over.
The 10% paying are.
 
Eskom is run by the uneducated.

If you keep increasing the price so much so that even rich people complain, well then how the ef are poor people supposed to be able to afford it? The more the increase, the more the theft and non payment.
 
writing off debt has never been a sustainable plan that has led to proper reform. never.
 
wingnut771 said:
Tell us how you are getting penalised?
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How much do you pay for your meter a month? Then we can sit without power for a whole day to a couple of days. When we drive out to where they claim the problem is, there is no one doing anything. Sure all of it is circumstantial but it happens almost every other day. From midnight till morning no power and sometimes they will turn off the power at 3:00 AM and only turn it on after peak hours. That means we have to burn gennies and all that just to keep our food from spoiling. It is actually very expensive burning petrol for the whole day.
 
Jackal46 said:
How much do you pay for your meter a month? Then we can sit without power for a whole day to a couple of days. When we drive out to where they claim the problem is, there is no one doing anything. Sure all of it is circumstantial but it happens almost every other day. From midnight till morning no power and sometimes they will turn off the power at 3:00 AM and only turn it on after peak hours. That means we have to burn gennies and all that just to keep our food from spoiling. It is actually very expensive burning petrol for the whole day.
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We don’t pay for the meter here in Durban, only per kWh. Power is on 24/7 also. Agree, running gennies all the time is expensive, maybe it’s time to take a bank loan and install solar and stop giving your money to the muni but rather the bank instead?
 
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