Eskom criticises Nersa's plan to charge solar users 5x-10x higher prices than mines

[Jan]

Eskom slams plan to punish solar power users with 1,000% higher prices than mines

Eskom has slammed the National Energy Regulator of South Africa (Nersa) principles document on electricity supply prices that could see solar panel users pay up to ten times more for electricity than the country's biggest power consumers.

The principle document is supposed to form the basis of a radical new electricity pricing methodology that the regulator wants to implement for Eskom's tariff applications from the next financial year (2023/2024).

 

[konfab]

Eskom’s tariff proposals also include a time of use tariff for residential users, which could be used to address peak demand issues, as well as a net-metering rate to compensate customers for energy exported onto the grid.

This tariff structure is exactly what is needed. Coupled with a smart meter, they can reward customers for saving electricity.

 

[Danie_V]

Something is not right with the logic: I use solar, and it is grid tied, but the batteries power it to way past the peak time in the evenings. I am REDUCING Eskom's demand and allowing more capacity to be provided to others. NERSA needs to understand this before making such ill-informed assumptions! They're probably thinking of pure solar without any form of storage. But even so, that does at least reduce demand during the day when businesses are consuming power. Time NERSA rather rewarded solar users for biting the bullet on expensive installation with zero subsidy, which has lightened Eskom's load somewhat.

 

[WollieVerstege]

Yeah, cause the plan will push more people completely off grid. Although residential is a small part of Eskom usage, it does generate a ton of money.

 

[deweyzeph]

I can see a huge market opening up in South Africa for embedded solar panels (like the Tesla roof tiles) that can be easily hidden. The authorities are going to find it very difficult to determine who is a solar power user eventually.

 

[Gazg]

Instead of going after the bastards that are NOT paying and/or have illegal connections, it seems as if they are trying to make up this shortfall from people that are trying to make a difference.
F**king t***s!!

 

[The_Librarian]

Instead of going after the bastards that are NOT paying and/or have illegal connections, it seems as if they are trying to make up this shortfall from people that are trying to make a difference.
F**king t***s!!

Hey, cadres need to eat and the ANC need voters...

 

[Enzo Matrix]

My panels and inverter are being installed tomorrow

F off

 

[Polymathic]

Word salad statement from cadres in an attempt to give the illusion that they actual know what they are talking about.

 

[system32]

Best quote:

It [Eskom] suggested that Nersa does not appear to understand the fundamental workings of electricity.

Shots fired...

 

[nicroets]

Something is not right with the logic: I use solar, and it is grid tied, but the batteries power it to way past the peak time in the evenings.

Just because you invested in ample storage, doesn't mean the average solar will follow your lead. That's wishful thinking.

More wishful thinking: The authorities will invest in smart meters and then encourage solar. That will be an incentive for people with large electric appliances like geysers and ovens to run them during the day.

Most likely scenario is future where load shedding happens every day from sunset to 8 pm.

 

[system32]

Something is not right with the logic: I use solar, and it is grid tied, but the batteries power it to way past the peak time in the evenings. I am REDUCING Eskom's demand and allowing more capacity to be provided to others. NERSA needs to understand this before making such ill-informed assumptions! They're probably thinking of pure solar without any form of storage. But even so, that does at least reduce demand during the day when businesses are consuming power. Time NERSA rather rewarded solar users for biting the bullet on expensive installation with zero subsidy, which has lightened Eskom's load somewhat.

+1
I just hope the get rid of the "net-zero" clause and allow home users to make a business out of feeding the grid.
I would add another battery and feed back during peak and make $$$.

1. Step one - Install Solar + battery
2. Step two - CoC to allow grid feed-in
3. ???? - Sell excess to Eskom during peak
4. PROFIT!!!

 

[konfab]

I can see a huge market opening up in South Africa for embedded solar panels (like the Tesla roof tiles) that can be easily hidden. The authorities are going to find it very difficult to determine who is a solar power user eventually.

Those are a meme.

 

[WollieVerstege]

I can see a huge market opening up in South Africa for embedded solar panels (like the Tesla roof tiles) that can be easily hidden. The authorities are going to find it very difficult to determine who is a solar power user eventually.

Your consumption will still drop significantly - that is all the trigger they will need to find you.

 

[dj_jyno]

Those are a meme.

But Marley's isn't. It's just prohibitively expensive per kW.

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[konfab]

But Marley's isn't. It's just prohibitively expensive per kW.

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Nonetheless a meme.

Solar panels are terribly inefficient. There is a reason we mount them at specific angles.

 

[grok]

Blekskom, what a tragic shitshow..

 

[Rickster]

Serious question, how must would it cost to run a 12KVA diesel genny at 50% load for 24/7? Ballpark is fine.

 

[mypetcow]

It's a little sad that ESKOM has to explain to their own regulator how the electricity grid works. I appreciate them doing this even though us 'variable customers' would be generating more money for them.
For once I think they are taking the big picture into consideration and not trying to get every last Rand into their pocket.

 

[clickingbuttons]

Serious question, how must would it cost to run a 12KVA diesel genny at 50% load for 24/7? Ballpark is fine.

More than what Eskom charges.