Eskom cuts electricity supply to millions of Soweto residents, City of Joburg unhappy

[ghostR]

Eskom said in a press release "We are teaching these savages how to utilise modern services."

[video=youtube;1x1GNiHQQ5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x1GNiHQQ5w[/video]

Wtf, They don't pay their bills anyway... So why do they care??

Viva Soweto being cut first! Viva!

 

[Fudzy]

do you get refunded during load shedding? anybody? we certainly don't. no freebie gen either... all we get is a big fat FU from eskom and gov, while we sit in the dark, also soon to be cold dark, while the lights in non-paying areas are shining brightly.
the only solution is for everybody to pay their dues, live within their means, then there can be a hope of enough elect to give to all

Two hours every other day is a little different to being permanently disconnected. If Eskom did the same thing in your neighbourhood, wouldn't you be pissed off?

http://mg.co.za/article/2015-05-07-struggle-for-power-in-soweto-goes-underground

 

[Fudzy]

Re: the link in my previous post I was meant to quote this:

Lumko is an old campaigner from the trenches of Chiawelo, another section of Soweto, in the electricity struggle that the township has been waging for decades. It started, or so citizens hold today, as a form of resistance to apartheid in the 1980s: don’t give the oppressor your money.

History repeating itself.

 

[ghostR]

Two hours every other day is a little different to being permanently disconnected. If Eskom did the same thing in your neighbourhood, wouldn't you be pissed off?

http://mg.co.za/article/2015-05-07-struggle-for-power-in-soweto-goes-underground

I think the point is that Majority of Soweto customers do not pay their electricity bills.

So why must we suffer the same amount as them when we pay our bills yet they do not?

 

[Swa]

Two hours every other day is a little different to being permanently disconnected. If Eskom did the same thing in your neighbourhood, wouldn't you be pissed off?

http://mg.co.za/article/2015-05-07-struggle-for-power-in-soweto-goes-underground

Thing is in our neighbourhood we all pay. If you don't pay you get disconnected and then have to pay a penalty. If I see illegal connections popping up I would report it. Their people don't just not report it but actively help each other. "Cousins" standing together. So I have no sympathy for the payers. Sort the peepol out or get cut.

 

[ghostR]

Thing is in our neighbourhood we all pay. If you don't pay you get disconnected and then have to pay a penalty. If I see illegal connections popping up I would report it. Their people don't just not report it but actively help each other. "Cousins" standing together. So I have no sympathy for the payers. Sort the peepol out or get cut.

+10

Exactly that.

Why must we suffer do to them not paying?? They are worsening our economy.

If they cannot afford to pay, they must not use electricity, It is very simple. Or just use the free allocated amount.

 

[naeem]

Thing is in our neighbourhood we all pay. If you don't pay you get disconnected and then have to pay a penalty. If I see illegal connections popping up I would report it. Their people don't just not report it but actively help each other. "Cousins" standing together. So I have no sympathy for the payers. Sort the peepol out or get cut.

and how quick they DC you! when i was on post paid and just moved to the new place, CoJ never sent me estimates so i just paid an average each month. Turns out i was underpaying and the second my outstanding amount hit about R2000. They cut me off. On a friday!

 

[Fudzy]

I think the point is that Majority of Soweto customers do not pay their electricity bills.

So why must we suffer the same amount as them when we pay our bills yet they do not?

I'd be interested to see the stats behind the number of non-payers vs. line stealers. Either way those who pay their electricity don't deserve to be punished.

 

[Hemi300c]

I am sure due to illegal connections and buildings the on and off of the supply is a huge fire risk.

 

[Swa]

and how quick they DC you! when i was on post paid and just moved to the new place, CoJ never sent me estimates so i just paid an average each month. Turns out i was underpaying and the second my outstanding amount hit about R2000. They cut me off. On a friday!

At least you get an outstanding amount. Here if you don't pay every last cent (and they even round it up to the nearest rand) you get a notice which costs you nearly R100. We got one even though it was paid at Spar before they made out the next account. Get another 7 days to pay and if you don't you get a disconnection notice with your reconnection fee of almost R200 already included.

 

[Fudzy]

I am sure due to illegal connections and buildings the on and off of the supply is a huge fire risk.

Forget fires, there are a couple dozen fatalities each year due to illegal connections. Ironically, the biggest cause of fires are paraffin lanterns/cookers which are used when there is no electricity.

 

[Hemi300c]

Forget fires, there are a couple dozen fatalities each year due to illegal connections. Ironically, the biggest cause of fires are paraffin lanterns/cookers which are used when there is no electricity.

Yip that's true. But a major fire could be disastrous

 

[reactor_sa]

Lumko is an old campaigner from the trenches of Chiawelo, another section of Soweto, in the electricity struggle that the township has been waging for decades. It started, or so citizens hold today, as a form of resistance to apartheid in the 1980s: don’t give the oppressor your money.

Totally agree - the ANC is oppressing us tax paying, law abiding citizens!

 

[dunkyd]

" call in the army " ???

You must get up to speed with our new country.....lot's of changes post '94.

 

[MickeyD]

Eskom said in a press release "We are teaching these savages how to utilise modern services."

Source? Remember that anonymity does not protect you if Eskom forwards your comment to the HRC or Equality Court.

 

[ellyally]

Lumko is an old campaigner from the trenches of Chiawelo, another section of Soweto, in the electricity struggle that the township has been waging for decades. It started, or so citizens hold today, as a form of resistance to apartheid in the 1980s: don’t give the oppressor your money.

Not possible. ANC history teaches us that only white people had electricity pre 94.

 

[ellyally]

This would not be possible to do for several reasons.

As said, don't know about it so you may be right, but my thoughts are this. Many times my power gets cut yet street lights remain on. This means that there is still power running through some of those cables. So, there must be different feeds on the poles, some for houses, others lights, others feeding though to other neighbourhoods etc? So, if someone illegally connects on the right 'wire' could they be immune to load shedding?

 

[Sinbad]

As said, don't know about it so you may be right, but my thoughts are this. Many times my power gets cut yet street lights remain on. This means that there is still power running through some of those cables. So, there must be different feeds on the poles, some for houses, others lights, others feeding though to other neighbourhoods etc? So, if someone illegally connects on the right 'wire' could they be immune to load shedding?

when they shed us here, everything goes dark. Streetlights, robots, everything. Except the monochoice monstrosity.

 

[ellyally]

when they shed us here, everything goes dark. Streetlights, robots, everything. Except the monochoice monstrosity.

Yeah, me to when 'shed', but not when there is a non scheduled power out or fault. Visa versa too, streetlights can all be off for days, yet area still has power, and when call and complain, the light switch get flicked on. So, just trying to understand if there are different feeds in the same poles I get power from that are controlled individually, some with power still passing through during shedding, and if I get the right one I'll be home free. Or, when my area is load shed, is it safe to lick the power lines?

 

[Sinbad]

A fault is often one phase of the three phase supply being out.
On our road the lights all feed off one of the phases. Some streets may have a separate feed for them I guess.