Eskom cuts supply to Khayelitsha after gangs demand R20,000 protection fee

[BuckRogers]

Then the innocent is not even allowed to protect themselves. When these gangs and criminals seem to get away with this.

It is sad but true.
Sometimes the gang members stay in the area and the community even protects them.

 

[Quicks]

It is sad but true.
Sometimes the gang members stay in the area and the community even protects them.

Yes, I forgot I read that. Why community would protect the same people causing them harm is just crazy.

 

[Paul_S]

Yes, I forgot I read that. Why community would protect the same people causing them harm is just crazy.

Like people who keep voting for the ANC which also harms them? Logic is a Western concept.

 

[Alton Turner Blackwood]

Yes, I forgot I read that. Why community would protect the same people causing them harm is just crazy.

• Gang members do not cause harm in their own areas. Everybody know where they live.
• They also do not allow other gangs to enter their turf because it cuts into their profits. Other gangs do not know who's a gangster and who's not so they will shoot at anybody who doesn't want to join. The resident gang prevents this from happening
• They make an insane amount of money. Using an example: A mandrax tablet can be had for R22 a pop and resells at R40. Since gangs operate in poor communities, it's easy as pie to buy the community's protection from the police.

 

[konfab]

Excellent news.

Not really.
Always remember broken windows theory. Criminals gaining the upper hand in the townships where they "deserve it", will eventually spill over to other places.

This one of the reasons why I support Action society. They fight crime in the places where criminals have the most free reign.

 

[Kola-CT]

SAPS too incompetent and often their members are part of the crime.

Fixed.

 

[Kola-CT]

• Gang members do not cause harm in their own areas. Everybody know where they live.
• They also do not allow other gangs to enter their turf because it cuts into their profits. Other gangs do not know who's a gangster and who's not so they will shoot at anybody who doesn't want to join. The resident gang prevents this from happening
• They make an insane amount of money. Using an example: A mandrax tablet can be had for R22 a pop and resells at R40. Since gangs operate in poor communities, it's easy as pie to buy the community's protection from the police.

Horseshit, come tell that to our workers who live in Atlantis.

So ‘they do not cause harm int their own areas’ but ‘shoot at anybody who wants to join’.
Do they take this shooting to other areas then?

 

[Kornhub]

criminal syndicate demanded a R20,000 protection fee per month from Eskom

That is pretty brazen of them

 

[wingnut771]

It would be a nice change if we could see the gangs protecting the eskom workers while they go about their duty from petty criminals for free. I know the gangs give back to the community which is why they protect them but how will they give them electricity?

 

[TelkomUseless]

R20k is rookie number... should have gone for R2m at least.

 

[daveza]

• Gang members do not cause harm in their own areas. Everybody know where they live.
• They also do not allow other gangs to enter their turf because it cuts into their profits. Other gangs do not know who's a gangster and who's not so they will shoot at anybody who doesn't want to join. The resident gang prevents this from happening
• They make an insane amount of money. Using an example: A mandrax tablet can be had for R22 a pop and resells at R40. Since gangs operate in poor communities, it's easy as pie to buy the community's protection from the police.

I think I'm confused.
I presume gangs all behave similarly.

If gangs don't inflict violence on the locals, and gangs do not allow other gangs to enter their turf and commit violence, then how do the locals ever experience gang violence ?

 

[zophas]

I think I'm confused.
I presume gangs all behave similarly.

If gangs don't inflict violence on the locals, and gangs do not allow other gangs to enter their turf and commit violence, then how do the locals ever experience gang violence ?

Maybe the locals get caught in the crossfire when the gangs have their turf wars?

 

[Defonotaltaccount]

Harare residents in Khayelitsha are facing a major electricity crisis after Eskom refused to provide services to the area due to gang extortions.

If there is no electricity, there can be no electricity crisis.

 

[Kola-CT]

Maybe the locals get caught in the crossfire when the gangs have their turf wars?

Yes, but they do that in their areas.
So for ogre to claim gang members do not cause harm in their own areas is simply not true.

We employ a number of people from these areas, some of them with sons and brothers in the gangs, and the main reason they do not report them is fear, not because the gangs look after the communities.

 

[Bewlen]

Law enforcement is devolved to citizens, as "SAPS" are simply too incompetent, a serious failure of management. And then this is simply translated to "we are partnering with the community"

TIA.

 

[Alton Turner Blackwood]

Yes, but they do that in their areas.
So for ogre to claim gang members do not cause harm in their own areas is simply not true.

We employ a number of people from these areas, some of them with sons and brothers in the gangs, and the main reason they do not report them is fear, not because the gangs look after the communities.

Atlantis? That's cute

You know I'm coloured, right? I'm asking because it's very relevant in how you'll assimilate this.

The area named Brentwood Park, see that? To the left of it is Delft (which is massive), to the right is Mfuleni. And above it is Wesbank (Diepwater and Vogelvlei are suburbs of Wesbank, not sure why Gmaps isn't showing "Wesbank", but the main road is clear)



Google any of them. I lived in Brentwood Park which was in middle of hell for 10 years. Ask yourself this, why would someone from Eindhoven, shoot someone from Eindhoven when the entire community knows where he lives? This only happens when it's collateral damage.

An innocent bystander, one bullet hole.
An intruder, the magazine gets emptied. Or a message gets sent (in my graphic Belhar is just above Delft).

I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Alton Turner Blackwood]

I think I'm confused.
I presume gangs all behave similarly.

If gangs don't inflict violence on the locals, and gangs do not allow other gangs to enter their turf and commit violence, then how do the locals ever experience gang violence ?

Gangs shoot at each other, if someone other than a gangster is shot, its usually because the shooter is kak. Look at the many instances where kids get shot, you really think it was the shooter's intention to shoot a 7 year old?

Seven-year-old Emaan Solomons was playing in front of her home when gunmen opened fire.

She was hit by a stray bullet.

Solomons' family has waited more than two years for the trial to start.

The accused, Eben Basson and Chivargo Fredericks, had allegedly intended to murder a rival gangster in retaliation for an earlier attack on one of their own.

 

[Tman*]

R20k is rookie number... should have gone for R2m at least.

Reserved for BEE lev 10000

 

[Oldfut]

Gangs shoot at each other, if someone other than a gangster is shot, its usually because the shooter is kak. Look at the many instances where kids get shot, you really think it was the shooter's intention to shoot a 7 year old?

Thanks for the insight. Do you have any suggestions as to how to reduce or eliminate (ha ha) this gang related violence?

 

[Thugscub]

Change the useless government.