Eskom is proposing new ways for South Africans to pay for electricity

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piggies need more ways to feast?
how about they actually maintain the infrastructure and prevent load shedding and not in the immediate period of the elections or just after.
Articles like these are more for the people who currently don't pay. Which in effect causes them to not be able to maintain infrastructure. Can't pay to repair something if you don't have money yourself.
 
Same nonsense repeated in articles over the last year. This only affects Eskom direct customers. People using City Power networks pay a connection charge already and it has literally **** all to do with solar users.

But we need clickbait headlines - so let's pretend it affects only solar users.
 
This is so stupid, Eskom can just as well then charge households who have a solar and/or a gas stove an extra fee, since they will not be using Eskom electricity.

I hope this gets challenged in court or something.
 
This is so stupid, Eskom can just as well then charge households who have a solar and/or a gas stove an extra fee, since they will not be using Eskom electricity.

I hope this gets challenged in court or something.
It's a network and connection fee, it's not anything to do with solar and it's being rehashed over and over. It's also only for the Eskom direct customers not everyone else as you would more then likely go through your muncipality.
 
I still don't know why they just don't charge small scale users under a certain maximum load a fixed monthly fee and do away with per kWh charges? It's not like they spin up another 300MW generator because Jan Frederick turns his kettle on.
 
Under Eskom’s proposal, there would be a higher fixed charge for connecting to the grid and a lower charge per kilowatt-hour (kWh) of electricity used.
When I fill up with petrol, I don't have to pay "a fixed fee" for connecting to the pump or having access to the station or any of the back end infrastructure like wells, transport and refining.

This is just a scam and we should resist,
 
I still don't know why they just don't charge small scale users under a certain maximum load a fixed monthly fee and do away with per kWh charges? It's not like they spin up another 300MW generator because Jan Frederick turns his kettle on.
That isn't entirely fair, it should be a usage based system sure, but the costs of the actual maintenance and such should be built into it. But this is also entirely dependant on the muncipality, remember this article is for Eskom direct customers, it's click baity. Especially since people cannot actually fathom the difference between Eskom and their muncipality.
 
That's fine, tshwane come remove your ****

This is my answer to Eskom:

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This is exactly what I will do. I need 1 more battery, and I will not need anything from Eskom. Some days my panels generate so much power I could not even use it all if I tried. They can come remove their crap from my property.

Sick of being viewed as a cash cow.
 
That isn't entirely fair, it should be a usage based system sure, but the costs of the actual maintenance and such should be built into it. But this is also entirely dependant on the muncipality, remember this article is for Eskom direct customers, it's click baity. Especially since people cannot actually fathom the difference between Eskom and their muncipality.

Yeah, I know it's clickbaity and for Eskom direct customers, but I don't see what is 'unfair' about charging everyone with say a single phase 60A feed the same monthly fee? The cost to maintain and supply 60A is the same for any 60A feed, give or take a bit here and there for distance from mini-subs, etc. Sure, it may mean that some assholes will just YOLO every electrical appliance in their house and use 60A all the time, so maybe the reason lies in that? My thinking is that for small users, there isn't much difference in the cost of supply as you aren't going to spin up a 300MW generator for extra load like you would for an aluminium smelter. So, what am I missing that charging per kWh makes more sense?
 
Yeah, I know it's clickbaity and for Eskom direct customers, but I don't see what is 'unfair' about charging everyone with say a single phase 60A feed the same monthly fee? The cost to maintain and supply 60A is the same for any 60A feed, give or take a bit here and there for distance from mini-subs, etc. Sure, it may mean that some assholes will just YOLO every electrical appliance in their house and use 60A all the time, so maybe the reason lies in that? My thinking is that for small users, there isn't much difference in the cost of supply as you aren't going to spin up a 300MW generator for extra load like you would for an aluminium smelter. So, what am I missing that charging per kWh makes more sense?
Because those that use under the 300kw/h would find it unfair
 
It just changes the calculus again. If you're paying more for electricity with grid-tied solar, the prospect of paying for more panels and more battery storage might mean you break even or better over 15 years, so there's now a more appealing route to go off-grid completely.
 
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