Eskom nearing deals for substation battery storage systems

[system32]

So 10 minutes of storage?

1.4GWh depends where it's deployed and if this is the full extent of the system.
1.4GWh would keep my suburb going for over 70 days

As a comparison:
Ingula Pumped Storage Scheme has a capacity of 21GWh and cost US$3.5 billion (R25 billion)

The BESS does seem expensive at R14 billion for 1.4GWh.
The main advantage of BESS is quick installation.

 

[r00igev@@r]

Do I see wet batteries in our future?

 

[2023]

The first phase will see 200MW output power.

Meanwhile: 16 000MW is offline due to breakdowns.

What a joke.

 

[Hemi300c]

Do I see wet batteries in out future?

I see batteries on Gumtree

 

[Jet-Fighter7700]

I see batteries on Gumtree

they sell them quite openly, leoch is the brand to search,
ALL of them from Looted Cell masts,

they Dont sell to the public, any Leoch battery you see out in the wild is a proceed of crime.

 

[Lupus]

1.4GWh depends where it's deployed and if this is the full extent of the system.
1.4GWh would keep my suburb going for over 70 days

As a comparison:
Ingula Pumped Storage Scheme has a capacity of 21GWh and cost US$3.5 billion (R25 billion)

The BESS does seem expensive at R14 billion for 1.4GWh.
The main advantage of BESS is quick installation.

Yeah but it gives SA 10 minutes, it may give your suburb 70 days, I mean technically it would give parts of JHB a week.

 

[Mystic Twilight]

they sell them quite openly, leoch is the brand to search,
ALL of them from Looted Cell masts,

they Dont sell to the public, any Leoch battery you see out in the wild is a proceed of crime.

Not quite true, more true than most but these can be imported directly. Know a company that imported these for their internal use a decade ago before lithium batteries gained major commercial traction in sa, not a stretch for them to becoming a reseller and sell their imports.

Breaking the monopoly to introduce more players was a good thing, overdoing it by tendering for everything and giving contracts to clueless people was a bad idea.

The problem is the "new players" aren't actually players, they are just middlemen who add their markup and outsource. So you're actually back to having only a handful of service providers everyone outsources back to.

 

[TheChamp]

Not quite true, more true than most but these can be imported directly. Know a company that imported these for their internal use a decade ago before lithium batteries gained major commercial traction in sa, not a stretch for them to becoming a reseller and sell their imports.



The problem is the "new players" aren't actually players, they are just middlemen who add their markup and outsource. So you're actually back to having only a handful of service providers everyone outsources back to.

Yes, it's more the principle part of it that I was referring to, not necessarily the implementation.

 

[Swa]

There has always been things that a company cannot do internally, so there has always been tenders. It is not necessarily tenders that are a problem but tenders for the sake of tendering even if there is sufficient capacity and resources within the institution.

Perhaps the difference is that previously the institution would have one trusted supplier or service provider with a recurring contract for years, it was good in a way that the service provider would develop the right skills and competencies over years to do whatever they were contracted for but bad in a way that one company would become very rich with the monopoly on the contract.

Breaking the monopoly to introduce more players was a good thing, overdoing it by tendering for everything and giving contracts to clueless people was a bad idea.

There's usually a reason de facto monopolies exist and it's normally not a nefarious one. I don't see why everything should be a tender as that's not how the private sector works. Just go and buy the best product at the best price on the open market. We all get why tenders exist. It might have been a noble idea to get general society involved and give them a chance but that's not how it works out. We saw that in most cases it's simply reselling at an inflated price after getting a volume discount from the supplier, and usually there's a cadre involved.

When it comes to something as critical as Eskom it's simply bad. We can get double that for half the price. Australia got it right.

 

[wingnut771]

 

[ronvickers]

Eskom close to sealing deals for massive battery storage system

Eskom is close to concluding agreements with suppliers to provide around 1.4GWh of battery energy storage.

During its State of the System briefing on Thursday, the utility revealed the tender for Phase 1 of its Battery Energy Storage Systems (BESS) project had closed, and the management had finished considering the bids.

Greed Mantashe won't like this and will probably scupper the deal unless a suitcase arrives of course

 

[wingnut771]

Greed Mantashe won't like this and will probably scupper the deal unless a suitcase arrives of course

Considering it's twice the cost of similar sized Tesla Megapack, suitecase is already included.

 

[TheChamp]

Greed Mantashe won't like this and will probably scupper the deal unless a suitcase arrives of course

Maybe you have your wires crossed, this has nothing to do with Gwede, it is a Eskom project, just like any other technical addition they can do to their infrastructure.

The Minister responsible for Eskom is Pravin Gordhan by the way, Gwede is the Minister of Mineral resources and Energy, his involvement is limited mosty to legislation and the strategic direction of energy security.

 

[silver6933]

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I lol 'ed

 

[Thor]

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This and will work out much cheaper

 

[RedViking]

This is going to be a huge success.

 

[mojoman]

This is going to be a huge success.

As always....

 

[TheChamp]

This is going to be a huge success.

It will be, they are not building the battery bank.

 

[RedViking]

It will be, they are not building the battery bank.

We bank on that.

 

[C4Cat]

alot of ppl forget that Since 94 the way things work in our country is TENDERS. Eskom has artisans, Technicians and Engineers. Yet they use TENDERS and Bureaucrati bullshit to line the pockets of the those that would rather see it implode

Since 94?