itareanlnotani

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Everyone who has identified this has (or is starting to) make a plan to secure their electricity needs.

Nothing will change for the next 3 years, and even then they will probably still win the next election. So we're stuck with this for the next 8 years.

Water is going to be the next crisis. It's another piece of critical infrastructure that hasn't been properly maintained. Boreholes are about to become the next solar...
I'm leaning towards taking mine from the sky. Loading up on jojo's fed from roof is my plan.

Costing me R800 for the first litre (not KL, litre!) from CoCT which is ridiculous.
My usage is 0KL a month, but my fixed fee's are R800 (probably more since July, I need to ask my accountant what the new outrageous fee's are).
 

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Been out most of Monday and the whole of today for us.

Some carp about rand water being unable to pump to the reservoir so they have to divert from Vereeniging...
I know, they are working on the links between the various areas, it's a big pipe that feeds multiple towers in Johannesburg. We are in the affected area but our water has thankfully remained on.
 

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All these negative reports and all targeted at de Ruyter. Makes one wonder.:unsure:
Sure he hasn't delivered on a self-imposed deadline, but who could have predicted what would happen in the following months.
Give the guy a break and time and let him get on with rooting out corruption in ESKOM.
Well maintenance seems to be at a low under him. They also don't have the money or spares to do maintenance but woot woot the guy reduced the debt by R100bn. He's also not rooting out the corruption.

People forget that the last time he was brought in it wasn't to save the company but to reduce the financial fallout. Think about that for a second and where his real expertise lies.
 

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Certainly will be better than the current guy, he hasn't achieved nix so far.

He hasn't?

The significant reduction in debt is a pretty big thing to achieve.
Yes he's struggling with the operational performance but in theory the moves he is making/should be making are above the operational level which will make a difference to the operational level over time.
 

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He hasn't?

The significant reduction in debt is a pretty big thing to achieve.
Yes he's struggling with the operational performance but in theory the moves he is making/should be making are above the operational level which will make a difference to the operational level over time.
And maybe the reason the previous ones didn't is because it does nothing to improve reliability?
 

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And maybe the reason the previous ones didn't is because it does nothing to improve reliability?

It doesn't?

So Eskom moving towards not drowning in debt and potentially being able to have funds to perform maintenance and even expansion does nothing to improve reliability?
 

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Certainly will be better than the current guy, he hasn't achieved nix so far.
Bafana Bafana do the same thing. They keep getting new coaches but the players are still not able to win.

Do you blame the coach or the 42000 employees and managers who a) cannot do the work they were employed to do or b) sabotage any progress that was made.
 

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It doesn't?

So Eskom moving towards not drowning in debt and potentially being able to have funds to perform maintenance and even expansion does nothing to improve reliability?
They haven't been able to have funds for maintenance. I know it's not what the De Ruyter Jesus disciples want to hear but maintenance is possibly some of the lowest it's ever been. I'm sure the previous ones could have paid off that debt as well to look good while saying maintenance be damned.
 

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They haven't been able to have funds for maintenance. I know it's not what the De Ruyter Jesus disciples want to hear but maintenance is possibly some of the lowest it's ever been. I'm sure the previous ones could have paid off that debt as well to look good while saying maintenance be damned.

But according to the government, the previous guys weren't able to do maintenance so how could maintenance be at its lowest levels ever?
 

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But according to the government, the previous guys weren't able to do maintenance so how could maintenance be at its lowest levels ever?
I'll wait for the report but some of those guys like Koko had the most maintenance under them. De Ruyter looks like a fraud. He makes things look good on the books and that's why they brought him in previously but meanwhile they're still rotten underneath.
 

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The reports will obviously be good to see.

And I am in no way saying that Eskom are currently doing more maintenance than they were before under the corrupt fscktards like Koko who cooked the books. And for an entity like Eskom, having things look good on the books is fundamental to the actual operational stability of the entity.

But yes, they're still rotten underneath as this will take time to resolve to any level given the scale of the entity and the scale of the corruption.
 
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The reports will obviously be good to see.

And I am in no way saying that Eskom are currently doing more maintenance than they were before under the corrupt fscktards like Koko who cooked the books. And for an entity like Eskom, having things look good on the books is fundamental to the actual operational stability of the entity.

But yes, they're still rotten underneath as this will take time to resolve to any level given the scale of the entity and the scale of the corruption.
There is no evidence he cooked the books.
 

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I'll wait for the report but some of those guys like Koko had the most maintenance under them. De Ruyter looks like a fraud. He makes things look good on the books and that's why they brought him in previously but meanwhile they're still rotten underneath.
Koko did the most maintenance please


It's amazing how it all started to fall to pieces the second he left right? I mean if he did the maintenance why did they start failing shortly after?
 

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Koko did the most maintenance please


It's amazing how it all started to fall to pieces the second he left right? I mean if he did the maintenance why did they start failing shortly after?
Yes, good question. Why did the next guy let it fall to pieces? What wasn't known at the time was that his system assured that plant managers would do the necessary maintenance because downtime cost them. Despite what people think of this every single functioning business does have a system of accountability.

Under De Ruyter plants are sitting out of operation but there's no evidence any real maintenance is being performed on them. Eskom doesn't have the parts or money to do maintenance because he used it all to pay off debt.

But hey, it all just appears that way because Koko cooked the books.
 

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You're talking allegations, where are the official charges
In a better run country he would already be in jail. In this country, the entire ANC cabinet would be in jail, so things don't work.

I'll leave you this - evidence of the good company that Koko kept..

 

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Yes, good question. Why did the next guy let it fall to pieces? What wasn't known at the time was that his system assured that plant managers would do the necessary maintenance because downtime cost them. Despite what people think of this every single functioning business does have a system of accountability.

Under De Ruyter plants are sitting out of operation but there's no evidence any real maintenance is being performed on them. Eskom doesn't have the parts or money to do maintenance because he used it all to pay off debt.

But hey, it all just appears that way because Koko cooked the books.
So they'd do necessary maintenance under his system, meanwhile the article actively states they skipped scheduled maintenance just to keep plants running.
 
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