Eskom says no to skilled engineers and technicians

[SpliceGold]

Are the retrenchments currently going on at Eskom?

Yes my friend was retrenched last week

 

[SpliceGold]

Yes my friend was retrenched last week

Unless it has something to do with BEE but he specifically said he was retrenched. He did say he got a good package out but still he is jobless now. Fking Eskom really

 

[TheChamp]

Unless it has something to do with BEE but he specifically said he was retrenched. He did say he got a good package out but still he is jobless now. Fking Eskom really

It probably has nothing to do with BEE, Solidarity would be making a lot of noise by now.

 

[TheChamp]

Something not gelling nicely about your friend's story, retrenchment is a process not an event, you don't just come to work and find that you have been retrenched.

 

[SpliceGold]

Something not gelling nicely about your friend's story, retrenchment is a process not an event, you don't just come to work and find that you have been retrenched.

He did know about it for some time, I dont know how long or the exact details except from what he told me. With Eskom and the way this country has gone you never know these days.

My point is why retrench a skilled technician that has been with the company for years and knows all the ins and outs of his job. He also traveled a lot and hardly spent time at home and did have a decent income. I will see him at the end of the month. He is more my husbands friend than mine so I didn't really ask many questions

 

[TheChamp]

He did know about it for some time, I dont know how long or the exact details except from what he told me. With Eskom and the way this country has gone you never know these days.

My point is why retrench a skilled technician that has been with the company for years and knows all the ins and outs of his job. He also traveled a lot and hardly spent time at home and did have a decent income. I will see him at the end of the month. He is more my husbands friend than mine so I didn't really ask many questions

I do sympathize, losing a job is not good, more especially now, I hope things come right for him.

 

[Tokolotshe]

It probably has nothing to do with BEE, Solidarity would be making a lot of noise by now.

So you're an expert on Solidarity as well?

Perhaps time to change your handle? May I suggest FactDenier?

 

[TheChamp]

So you're an expert on Solidarity as well?

When we have retrenchments unions make noise, no need to be an expert on anything Solomon.

 

[Francois Marais]

Something not gelling nicely about your friend's story, retrenchment is a process not an event, you don't just come to work and find that you have been retrenched.

I was sitting at hospital, waiting for my turn to get chemo and was notified that I have been retrenched

 

[konfab]

He did know about it for some time, I dont know how long or the exact details except from what he told me. With Eskom and the way this country has gone you never know these days.

My point is why retrench a skilled technician that has been with the company for years and knows all the ins and outs of his job. He also traveled a lot and hardly spent time at home and did have a decent income. I will see him at the end of the month. He is more my husbands friend than mine so I didn't really ask many questions

That is exactly why Eskom is in the position they are in.
The racial ideology of the ANC and their retrenchment of skilled people meant that a lot of the institutional knowledge of the company is not there. That is the stuff that makes it possible for a company to be profitable.

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2019-02-15-eskom-and-the-unseen-spider-web/

 

[ToxicBunny]

I was sitting at hospital, waiting for my turn to get chemo and was notified that I have been retrenched

And you had no Section 189 issues prior, and no consultation?

 

[TheChamp]

I was sitting at hospital, waiting for my turn to get chemo and was notified that I have been retrenched

For how long were you at hospital and away from work? Were you the only one affected by retrenchment? How were you notified of your retrenchment? What happened thereafter?

 

[Suspect99]

I was sitting at hospital, waiting for my turn to get chemo and was notified that I have been retrenched

Retrenchment due to medical incapacity?

 

[Francois Marais]

And you had no Section 189 issues prior, and no consultation?

Nothing was done right. They decided not to call it retrenchment but restructuring after a labor lawyer told them that it will be less hassle, and easier to get rid of me.

The lawyer I saw to help me said I have a clear case for the CCMA, but I have to fight the cancer inside of me.

The CEO and CTO will have their day one day.

 

[ToxicBunny]

Nothing was done right. They decided not to call it retrenchment but restructuring after a labor lawyer told them that it will be less hassle, and easier to get rid of me.

The lawyer I saw to help me said I have a clear case for the CCMA, but I have to fight the cancer inside of me.

The CEO and CTO will have their day one day.

Then yes, you do have a clear case for the CCMA as restructing/retrenchment actually doesn't change the legal process they are required to follow... but there is a time limit attached to that...
Of course fighting the cancer is more important though.

I am not a labour lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, but it blows my mind just how often I see instances where labour lawyers get the most basic things horribly wrong.

 

[Francois Marais]

Retrenchment due to medical incapacity?

They called it restructuring. They just wanted to get rid of me. They looked for every excuse in the book to lay me off. Even taking lunch was a problem, and went to dix a tyre after I got damage to the tyre on my way to a client and the CEO cursed and called me a lot of things that I don’t want to mention on here when I took my car to TWT to get the flat fixed. (10 cm nail in my tire)

 

[Francois Marais]

For how long were you at hospital and away from work? Were you the only one affected by retrenchment? How were you notified of your retrenchment? What happened thereafter?

I was in hospital for about 15 days and had chemo every three weeks for one day.

They moved the operation to DBN and said we could move there (at our cost), but they tried to get rid of the one lady and a few other things happend and they decided not to call it retrenchment. The others found jobs within a few days and most resigned. (We were 5 people in the branch)

I was at Steve Biko, waiting for my chemo session and was busy working on a clients PBX problem (I could do my job remotely) and wanted to access my emails as the client sent me a mail. When I tried to access my mail, I got a message that my account was suspended. Phoned my super and he told me did not know why, and he phone the CEO, who then phoned me and told me I was suspended. And to this day I do not know why, but went through a hearing and told them to just pay my leave and money due, and I will go. I had no fight in me, and still have no fight in me to take them on. I need to beat cancer.

There are other ways to get back at them. But that will come when I beat cancer!

Oh and they made mistakes on my UIF forms so that I cant claim UIF, but have a company that helps me with that now. Have a legal team that said they will help me free of charge if the continue screwing me around. Either by the slander from the CEO on my name or not being competent to complete the correct forms for UIF or what ever will come

 

[Suspect99]

I was in hospital for about 15 days and had chemo every three weeks for one day.

They moved the operation to DBN and said we could move there (at our cost), but they tried to get rid of the one lady and a few other things happend and they decided not to call it retrenchment. The others found jobs within a few days and most resigned. (We were 5 people in the branch)

I was at Steve Biko, waiting for my chemo session and was busy working on a clients PBX problem (I could do my job remotely) and wanted to access my emails as the client sent me a mail. When I tried to access my mail, I got a message that my account was suspended. Phoned my super and he told me did not know why, and he phone the CEO, who then phoned me and told me I was suspended. And to this day I do not know why, but went through a hearing and told them to just pay my leave and money due, and I will go. I had no fight in me, and still have no fight in me to take them on. I need to beat cancer.

There are other ways to get back at them. But that will come when I beat cancer!

Oh and they made mistakes on my UIF forms so that I cant claim UIF, but have a company that helps me with that now. Have a legal team that said they will help me free of charge if the continue screwing me around. Either by the slander from the CEO on my name or not being competent to complete the correct forms for UIF or what ever will come

Your superintendent phoned the CEO of Eskom and he told him that you are suspended?

Or are you not talking about Eskom?

 

[Francois Marais]

Nope not Eskom. Eskom told me I am to white to apply for a job there

 

[TheChamp]

I was in hospital for about 15 days and had chemo every three weeks for one day.

They moved the operation to DBN and said we could move there (at our cost), but they tried to get rid of the one lady and a few other things happend and they decided not to call it retrenchment. The others found jobs within a few days and most resigned. (We were 5 people in the branch)

I was at Steve Biko, waiting for my chemo session and was busy working on a clients PBX problem (I could do my job remotely) and wanted to access my emails as the client sent me a mail. When I tried to access my mail, I got a message that my account was suspended. Phoned my super and he told me did not know why, and he phone the CEO, who then phoned me and told me I was suspended. And to this day I do not know why, but went through a hearing and told them to just pay my leave and money due, and I will go. I had no fight in me, and still have no fight in me to take them on. I need to beat cancer.

There are other ways to get back at them. But that will come when I beat cancer!

Oh and they made mistakes on my UIF forms so that I cant claim UIF, but have a company that helps me with that now. Have a legal team that said they will help me free of charge if the continue screwing me around. Either by the slander from the CEO on my name or not being competent to complete the correct forms for UIF or what ever will come

Sorry about you ordeal. I thought you worked for Eskom, the questions I asked were meant to determine if you were in the hospital for such a long time that the retrechment process unfolded and ran it's course while you were in hospital. There is a clear process on how retrenchment, the Section 189 process should happen. Since I have been clarified I guess all I can say strength to you and your family through this trying time.