Eskom wants R1.8 billion for staff bonuses

ToxicBunny

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You cannot take the leave away though - tired people cause accidents and major problems. They need to put more people on those projects and reduce some of the people's hours to ensure they get adequate rest.
They have enough people. The entity is over staffed massively.

But you are thinking of this issue like a private entity, and eskom very clearly doesn't operate that way....
 

thechamp

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You cannot take the leave away though - tired people cause accidents and major problems. They need to put more people on those projects and reduce some of the people's hours to ensure they get adequate rest.
Plus it goes against labour laws to deny people leave.
 

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I agree with you. Those that go out at all hours to fix problems, do the heavy and dangerous work, spend hours of overtime trying to fix legacy issues that should have been part of a maintenance program, etc - they are the ones who should get increases and bonuses. No one with Manager in the title should as they are already earning a lot more than those who do the work below them. Managers should only get if Eskom is doing well - like what happens in most businesses.
No money =no money.

I vote no bonuses for anyone higher paid than the techies in the field until all power generation is working 100%. Further more no bonuses or leave for anyone working on the completion of pending power plants...
Leave is not the employees fault, you don't want tired people working on critical systems.
 

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They have enough people. The entity is over staffed massively.

But you are thinking of this issue like a private entity, and eskom very clearly doesn't operate that way....
Yes - and there is the problem. Private entities work.
And while you feel they are overstaffed - their staffing needs looking at. People need to be reskilled to fill those positions that are lacking.
 

TribbleZA

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Plus it goes against labour laws to deny people leave.
Definitely. Bonuses and increases are not set in stone - leave is. Besides - they are working in dangerous jobs, rest is a requirement.
 

TribbleZA

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100% this but you can defer leave for a reasonable period for operational reasons.
In a nuclear power plant I would strongly oppose that. Even in a normal power plant over-tiredness is incredibly dangerous and generally bad for the equipment too.
 

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Yes - and there is the problem. Private entities work.
And while you feel they are overstaffed - their staffing needs looking at. People need to be reskilled to fill those positions that are lacking.
Staffing does need to be looked at yes.. Retrain those workers who show some aptitude and willingness into roles that are needed and let go of those that are dead weight (around 20000 of them)
 

koeks525

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Pay employees their their bonuses. DO NOT pay bonuses for top-management / exec. Eskom is where it is today due to poor leadership and bad decision making.
 

Kosmik

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Yet they are demanding and it seem govt is giving in. So the money that we are funding should go to the right people.
Yes, back to the people who are funding it. People need to relise you can't pay bonuses or increases when there is no money, that's what causes excessive inflation.
 

yebocan

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..well, why not..? Wonder when they open their bonus structure to non Eskom employees , consumers...

I maintain, no one really knows wtf is going on at Eskom, its a corrupt enterprise ... conveniently every time there is a threat to the party, that is going on... boom something/s break .. bonus talk, don't get the right response , boom conveyer breaks. Good luck to the new Ceo ...
 

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Pay employees their their bonuses. DO NOT pay bonuses for top-management / exec. Eskom is where it is today due to poor leadership and bad decision making.
Serious question: who is to blame for all the failures that are occuring? Is it not the employees who don't know wtf they are doing?
 

TribbleZA

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Serious question: who is to blame for all the failures that are occuring? Is it not the employees who don't know wtf they are doing?
Not always. Sometimes equipment is old or hasn't been maintained. That would be the manager's fault.
 

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No money =no money.



Leave is not the employees fault, you don't want tired people working on critical systems.
They've probably just had leave.

They are over staffed. I doubt overtime will be required. Infact they could probably cycle everyone and let them work 4 day weeks.

So no leave required until next December. And long weekends...
 

thechamp

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Serious question: who is to blame for all the failures that are occuring? Is it not the employees who don't know wtf they are doing?
Serious answer, NO, it's the corrupt government who are to blame, plus a couple of employees who are in on the scam.

Who do you blame when some equipment fail because it was fed substandard coal that was approved through very dodgy means?
 

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i take a slightly different view to most on this.

the staff at the bottom end of the pay scale have no part in any decision making process, they are the one's that need the money most and will land up being unfairly punished.

anybody in middle management up - R0.00 bonus, no matter what department.
this may serve to keep upper management under constant watch from below
Are the ones at the bottom end not the ones that sabotage power stations? How many of the 20k excess staff sitting on their asses all day are on the bottom end?
 

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How does the Eskom bonus system work?

Do certain employees have a pre-determined target bonus % and a bonus calculation based on individual performance and company performance?
 
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