Eskom wants to hike electricity prices even more

[tin4444]

And rinse and repeat. Like clockwork and right on time for Christmas bonus. Last year December and January we also had this.

 

[grok]

And rinse and repeat. Like clockwork and right on time for Christmas bonus. Last year December and January we also had this.

Blackmail is an act of coercion using the threat of revealing or publicizing either substantially true or false information about a person or people unless certain demands are met. It is often damaging information, and may be revealed to family members or associates rather than to the general public. It may involve using threats of physical, mental or emotional harm, or of criminal prosecution, against the victim or someone close to the victim.[1][2] It is normally carried out for personal gain, most commonly of position, money, or property.[1][3][4][5]

Blackmail may also be considered a form of extortion.[1] Although the two are generally synonymous, extortion is the taking of personal property by threat of future harm.[6] Blackmail is the use of threat to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that provoke a breach of the peace, as well as use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt.[7]

In many jurisdictions, blackmail is a statutory offense, often criminal, carrying punitive sanctions for convicted perpetrators. Blackmail is the name of a statutory offense in the United States, England and Wales, and Australia,[8] and has been used as a convenient way of referring to certain other offenses, but was not a term used in English law until 1968.[9]

Blackmail should be illegal, not a company business plan.. but then TIA!

 

[Neuk_]

Economics 101

 

[MachoPants]

If you work from home and power is needed. You can argue it. If you don’t want to be inconvenienced when the power dips, you’ll get it.

We don’t all have R500 electricity sadly. Again, depends on your use case like all things in life

I do work from home, my consumption certainly isn't the figures of some members. Works for me

 

[Pho3nix]

I do work from home, my consumption certainly isn't the figures of some members. Works for me

You work from home and are ok with rolling blackouts that might leave you without power for up to 8 hours a day?

Teach me?

 

[MachoPants]

You work from home and are ok with rolling blackouts that might leave you without power for up to 8 hours a day?

Teach me?

Cost vs inconvenience, I'm with the inconvenience. I wont spend tens of thousands of rands on equipment and then wait 7 - 10 years to get pay back. I could be dead tomorrow and wasted the money. No value in that financial outlay for me

 

[Aghori]

is it? is it really? i would love to feed into the grid.
if government/municipalities could concentrate on battery storage and let residents install solar, even subsidise it for lower income folks, this will go a long way in alleviating poverty. imagine every shack is getting paid to produce power.

It will work. People will even start stealing sunshine.

 

[Johnatan56]

Cost vs inconvenience, I'm with the inconvenience. I wont spend tens of thousands of rands on equipment and then wait 7 - 10 years to get pay back. I could be dead tomorrow and wasted the money. No value in that financial outlay for me

Well, cost of lost business, if you can't deliver the product in time, then customers will move elsewhere.

 

[Rouxenator]

Well, if you think about it - light is white and that's racist.

 

[Pho3nix]

Cost vs inconvenience, I'm with the inconvenience. I wont spend tens of thousands of rands on equipment and then wait 7 - 10 years to get pay back. I could be dead tomorrow and wasted the money. No value in that financial outlay for me

As mentioned different strokes. Couples hours offline is a couple of thousands in revenue. Capital outlay makes sense.

As for dying tomorrow, why have a savings account and worry about interest then. YOLO.

 

[SaiyanZ]

As I only spend R500 a month on electricity, these R40 -R60k costs for solar are useless for me

Same here. Though I am considering something as being off for 9 hours a day is not on.

Solar guys, what is the cheapest option if I just want to power a PC, laptop and router? LTE router so I assume that should still work as long as Telkom/Vodacom keep their towers powered.

Doesn't have to be solar but I assume generators are noisy and I rent. A big rechargeable battery might work too?

 

[spiff]

is it? is it really? i would love to feed into the grid.
if government/municipalities could concentrate on battery storage and let residents install solar, even subsidise it for lower income folks, this will go a long way in alleviating poverty. imagine every shack is getting paid to produce power.

not a bad idea. although I won't roll out PV to every shack - rather to people who can manage the system properly.
COCT should then rather encourage / subsidise solar PV panels and then allow the excess energy to be fed to the poorer communities or to be stored in batteries for night time - WITHOUT charging the PV owners.

 

[wingnut771]

not a bad idea. although I won't roll out PV to every shack - rather to people who can manage the system properly.
COCT should then rather encourage / subsidise solar PV panels and then allow the excess energy to be fed to the poorer communities or to be stored in batteries for night time - WITHOUT charging the PV owners.

nothing to manage really, just need a licensed installer (more jobs), but they would need to have a proper grid and meters (more jobs) in the township.
i would like to change "battery" storage to "energy" storage, like using solar to raise weights in the old mine shafts as gravity batteries and to pump water back into pumped storage scheme's.
obviously there will be in the kuk when it rains for 2 weeks, but i guess if its across the whole country, it limits the risk.

 

[wingnut771]

Same here. Though I am considering something as being off for 9 hours a day is not on.

Solar guys, what is the cheapest option if I just want to power a PC, laptop and router? LTE router so I assume that should still work as long as Telkom/Vodacom keep their towers powered.

Doesn't have to be solar but I assume generators are noisy and I rent. A big rechargeable battery might work too?

probably one of these:

 

[wingnut771]

Same here. Though I am considering something as being off for 9 hours a day is not on.

Solar guys, what is the cheapest option if I just want to power a PC, laptop and router? LTE router so I assume that should still work as long as Telkom/Vodacom keep their towers powered.

Doesn't have to be solar but I assume generators are noisy and I rent. A big rechargeable battery might work too?

slightly bigger:

 

[daveza]

probably one of these:
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Would be so nice if they had a button to stop the damn beeping in the middle of the night.

 

[John Tempus]

@SaiyanZ , get this. Best bang for buck with AGM deep cycle batteries compared to the other suggestions here.

Mecer 2400VA Inverter + 2x 100AH Batteries (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1440W

Mecer Inverter 2400VA (1440W) + 20A UPS Charger SIMILAR to INTELLIPOWER 4 or TESCOM 2000 UNIT Includes 2x 100Ah Battery + Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions: 44cm(H) x 39cm(W) x 38cm(L) PLEASE NOTE: The 8-hour battery life is based on a 150W consumption...

www.geewiz.co.za

That suggested Takealot unit doesn't make sense, good luck getting anything close to what you expect. The description states , "Whats in the box : 1x Uptech 2.4KVA inverter (2x 65ah Batteries)" but the ad state Uptech 1.2KVA with 1x 105ah Battery. lmao

 

[wingnut771]

Would be so nice if they had a button to stop the damn beeping in the middle of the night.

lol, that would drive me insane and kind of negates the need for it, yes we know the power is out, that's why i bought you mr. inverter.
there is usually a setting that disables the beeps afaik, but can't say, i don't own one, just using a normal 600w inverter connected to my car (diesel) that idles during loadshedding with a long extension cable
i used to have a normal ups that i opened and pulled (wripped) the speaker out.

 

[wingnut771]

@SaiyanZ , get this. Best bang for buck with AGM deep cycle batteries compared to the other suggestions here.

Mecer 2400VA Inverter + 2x 100AH Batteries (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1440W

Mecer Inverter 2400VA (1440W) + 20A UPS Charger SIMILAR to INTELLIPOWER 4 or TESCOM 2000 UNIT Includes 2x 100Ah Battery + Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions: 44cm(H) x 39cm(W) x 38cm(L) PLEASE NOTE: The 8-hour battery life is based on a 150W consumption...

www.geewiz.co.za

That suggested Takealot unit doesn't make sense, good luck getting anything close to what you expect. The description states , "Whats in the box : 1x Uptech 2.4KVA inverter (2x 65ah Batteries)" but the ad state Uptech 1.2KVA with 1x 105ah Battery. lmao

that's the one i was trying to find, shot.
yeah, i'm just window shopping.

 

[SaiyanZ]

@SaiyanZ , get this. Best bang for buck with AGM deep cycle batteries compared to the other suggestions here.

Mecer 2400VA Inverter + 2x 100AH Batteries (8 HOUR BATTERY LIFE) KIT - 1440W

Mecer Inverter 2400VA (1440W) + 20A UPS Charger SIMILAR to INTELLIPOWER 4 or TESCOM 2000 UNIT Includes 2x 100Ah Battery + Steel Cabinet + Wheels All cabling and connectors included Unit Dimensions: 44cm(H) x 39cm(W) x 38cm(L) PLEASE NOTE: The 8-hour battery life is based on a 150W consumption...

www.geewiz.co.za

That suggested Takealot unit doesn't make sense, good luck getting anything close to what you expect. The description states , "Whats in the box : 1x Uptech 2.4KVA inverter (2x 65ah Batteries)" but the ad state Uptech 1.2KVA with 1x 105ah Battery. lmao

Thanks, seems like what I need. Going on holiday for a few weeks in a couple days so will see what the situation is like in January before buying.