Eskom wants to implement power cuts in Durban

[wingnut771]

I don't need to take my fight to the municipality. Eskom is doing that already and rightfully so. I'm in agreement with what's happening there.

My anger is not misdirected here. I'm angry at this fellow's attitude. His belief that he is morally justified living loadshedding free because someone next door had their life destroyed.

**** off, that's not what I'm saying. Go jump in a lake.

 

[Kola-CT]

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Eskom wants to implement power cuts in Durban"​

Of course, it is only fair.
/s

 

[porchrat]

**** off, that's not what I'm saying. Go jump in a lake.

Then you should have no moral objection to being loadshed like the rest of the country. Thanks for joining us in sacrificing for the good of the grid.

 

[wingnut771]

Then you should have no moral objection to being loadshed like the rest of the country. Thanks for joining us in sacrificing for the good of the grid.

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Eskom wants to implement power cuts in Durban

Oh yea 100%. Areas that are just getting onto their feet where loadshedding would just detonate the transformer and set them back to zero is not on. Areas that haven't been impacted though. The shedding should never have stopped in the first place. Given what I know happened, I think it was...

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[porchrat]

refer to post #30

Eskom wants to implement power cuts in Durban

Oh yea 100%. Areas that are just getting onto their feet where loadshedding would just detonate the transformer and set them back to zero is not on. Areas that haven't been impacted though. The shedding should never have stopped in the first place. Given what I know happened, I think it was...

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So you do object to doing your personal fair share for the country then.

My point stands mate.

You're either fine with your area being loadshed, or you're not. There's no middle ground here. It's very simple.

It's reprehensible to claim that because others are suffering you must now be exempt. Which is basically what you're doing.

 

[Devo1]

 

[wingnut771]

So you do object to doing your personal fair share for the country then.

My point stands mate.

You're either fine with your area being loadshed, or you're not. There's no middle ground here. It's very simple.

There's nothing fair about one city reducing their load twice as much as the next city.

My point stands too.

 

[porchrat]

There's nothing fair about one city reducing their load twice as much as the next city.

My point stands too.

You're hiding behind this collectivist thing where you personally don't have to sacrifice.

Basically, your neighbour has been hit so hard by this disaster that you can now coast on their misfortune because you lump yourself into this group.

Horrific mate.

Have some compassion for your fellow man. The situation of those suffering from the flooding is a unique circumstance. It doesn't change that the national grid is constrained and that those of us who get power with reliable infrastructure all have a moral duty to each other to do what we can to keep that grid functioning.

 

[wingnut771]

You're hiding behind this collectivist thing where you personally don't have to sacrifice.

Basically, your neighbour has been hit so hard by this disaster that you can now coast on their misfortune because you lump yourself into this group.

Horrific mate.

Have some compassion for your fellow man. The situation of those suffering from the flooding is a unique circumstance. It doesn't change that the national grid is constrained and that those of us who get power with reliable infrastructure all have a moral duty to each other to do what we can to keep that grid functioning.

That is how load works, it's a collective thing.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

That is how load works, it's a collective thing.

If you're in Westville and someone in Umhlanga had their house washed away, should you get a free ride?

Load should be shed ward by ward. Let the individual councillors fight for a concession and justify why they should be spared...

 

[porchrat]

That is how load works, it's a collective thing.

It's easy to say that when you're the one not getting cut mate.

A truly terrible attitude to have towards the suffering of your fellow man. For shame.

 

[wingnut771]

If you're in Westville and someone in Umhlanga had their house washed away, should you get a free ride?

Load should be shed ward by ward. Let the individual councillors fight for a concession and justify why they should be spared...

Its a tragedy no doubt, but if Umhlanga is off, there is no need to "reduce" load in another ward because the load is already "reduced".

Anyway, lets just agree to disagree, this is going nowhere.

 

[wingnut771]

It's easy to say that when you're the one not getting cut mate.

A truly terrible attitude to have towards the suffering of your fellow man. For shame.

We are all getting water shed too because of infrastructure damage to the main pipe lines not able to feed reservoirs. I feel for our brothers and sisters, but it doesn't change the facts.

You're the one with the attitude.

 

[porchrat]

We are all getting water shed too because of infrastructure damage to the main pipe lines not able to feed reservoirs. I feel for our brothers and sisters, but it doesn't change the facts.

You're the one with the attitude.

I'm the one saying all South Africans receiving a stable power supply should be doing their part. That's the whole spirit of loadshedding. You're using your neighbour getting his life destroyed as a shield.

Yes loadshedding sucks, none of us want it, but if we don't all experience it, it's really not fair. You're proposing an unfair scenario in which you benefit. Thankfully Eskom is no longer having any of it. Maybe they'll move your house to stage 10 to make up for lost time.

 

[wingnut771]

I'm the one saying all South Africans receiving a stable power supply should be doing their part. That's the whole spirit of loadshedding. You're using your neighbour getting his life destroyed as a shield.

Yes loadshedding sucks, none of us want it, but if we don't all experience it, it's really not fair. You're proposing an unfair scenario in which you benefit. Thankfully Eskom is no longer having any of it. Maybe they'll move your house to stage 10 to make up for lost time.

Watch nothing change on a national level when they start here.

 

[porchrat]

Watch nothing change on a national level when they start here.

The few 100MWs they get back from Durban means less diesel burning, less pressure on the remaining power stations. It could even mean the difference between stage 6 and stage 5. Who knows. Certainly not you.

The point is, do your individual part. You shouldn't have to be compelled to.

 

[Mike Hoxbig]

Watch nothing change on a national level when they start here.

Every bit helps. And fair is fair, even if it's to put an end to stuff like this:

We have completely forgotten what load shedding is. When we see articles about stage 6, we laugh and ignore them.

How much suffering is there really after 3 months, if people are laughing at the rest of the country...

 

[Nerfherder]

You haven't. Some other poor individuals have been reduced like it's stage infinity. None of this "we" garbage.


No your area will be shed like it's stage 6. Just like the rest of us. Other people's misfortune should not excuse areas with infrastructure not impacted by the floods. Eskom is a national problem. No individual South African should be getting out of this without inconvenience.

Yep - its crunch time.

I have noticed that my old neighbourhood which never used to get load shedding is now all of a sudden going dark.. we are scraping the barrel now. This is an area that was excluded from load shedding for 10 years +, feels like we are running out of load to shed.

 

[porchrat]

Yep - its crunch time.

I have noticed that my old neighbourhood which never used to get load shedding is now all of a sudden going dark.. we are scraping the barrel now. This is an area that was excluded from load shedding for 10 years +, feels like we are running out of load to shed.

I've heard similar stories. Mates of mine used to live in a similar area in Cape Town. On the same supply as 2 hospitals so they were never cut. Last year was the first time they experienced loadshedding.

I get the logic behind it if the hospital isn't geared to handle loadshedding then people could die... still irritating to hear that you're sacrificing while others just coast happily along.

 

[wingnut771]

Yep - its crunch time.

I have noticed that my old neighbourhood which never used to get load shedding is now all of a sudden going dark.. we are scraping the barrel now. This is an area that was excluded from load shedding for 10 years +, feels like we are running out of load to shed.

Exactly.