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How in the world can you manage "unplanned" maintenance at a specific level ? Would that not qualify it as planned maintenance ? Isn't unplanned the effect of something breaking that you apparently had no control over ?

WTF is going on with Eskom and the use of definition because this is just getting more ridiculous each time they make a statement.
 

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How utterly funny would it be for Solidarity to build a coal power station that comes in ahead of schedule and under budget and it is completed before medupi/kusile are 100% working? I would laugh my a** off
 

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How in the world can you manage "unplanned" maintenance at a specific level ? Would that not qualify it as planned maintenance ? Isn't unplanned the effect of something breaking that you apparently had no control over ?

WTF is going on with Eskom and the use of definition because this is just getting more ridiculous each time they make a statement.
Cadres at ESKOM take their orders from the ANC......ANC is running and ruining ESKOM like everything else they have touched.......Andre De Ruyter and others employed who are not ANC are just figureheads who are there to take the fall whilst ESKOM eats itself.
 

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How in the world can you manage "unplanned" maintenance at a specific level ? Would that not qualify it as planned maintenance ?
LOL - Great question

I think the SA parastatal spokesfolks come up with all sorts of crepe, like this gem from De Ruyter

“We will ensure, with the City of Cape Town, that there will not be load-shedding at the venue during the President’s speech and also prior to and after the event to ensure that there is no disruption to this crucial part of our democratic processes.

“Where we are with the generation system right now, it is difficult for us to give an absolute guarantee that there will not be any load-shedding during Thursday evening . . . [but] we will do our best to restore the system, not because of SONA per se, but because we want to be a reliable supplier of electricity to the entire country.”

source: https://www.miningweekly.com/article/load-shedding-2022-02-07
 

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How in the world can you manage "unplanned" maintenance at a specific level ? Would that not qualify it as planned maintenance ? Isn't unplanned the effect of something breaking that you apparently had no control over ?

WTF is going on with Eskom and the use of definition because this is just getting more ridiculous each time they make a statement.
It's maintenance practice to manage breakdowns, it's in the definition of the job.
 

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It's maintenance practice to manage breakdowns, it's in the definition of the job.

Uh no, the definition of unplanned maintenance is exactly what I stated. You cannot manage it, it happens unexpectedly and hence the idea of we will "manage" unplanned maintenance is an oxymoron.

And to put salt in the wound, the definition state that it happens due to no formal strategy in place. LMAO, sounds about right.

"Unplanned maintenance is any maintenance task that occurs unexpectedly. It happens when there is no formal strategy in place to address a repair, replacement, or inspection before it's needed. Unplanned maintenance is commonly the result of equipment failure that was not anticipated."
 

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Uh no, the definition of unplanned maintenance is exactly what I stated. You cannot manage it, it happens unexpectedly and hence the idea of we will "manage" unplanned maintenance is an oxymoron.

And to put salt in the wound, the definition state that it happens due to no formal strategy in place. LMAO, sounds about right.

"Unplanned maintenance is any maintenance task that occurs unexpectedly. It happens when there is no formal strategy in place to address a repair, replacement, or inspection before it's needed. Unplanned maintenance is commonly the result of equipment failure that was not anticipated."
If you've ever seen a maintenance you'll see that they have targets to keep breakdowns below a level. You do that by maintaining equipment which ensures that you have good predictability. This is obvious.
 

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Uh no, the definition of unplanned maintenance is exactly what I stated. You cannot manage it, it happens unexpectedly and hence the idea of we will "manage" unplanned maintenance is an oxymoron.

And to put salt in the wound, the definition state that it happens due to no formal strategy in place. LMAO, sounds about right.

"Unplanned maintenance is any maintenance task that occurs unexpectedly. It happens when there is no formal strategy in place to address a repair, replacement, or inspection before it's needed. Unplanned maintenance is commonly the result of equipment failure that was not anticipated."
I agree to some extent, however an analogy would be a car. If you constantly do preventative maintenance you would know which parts are nearing end of life and can deal with those issues before the motor breaks down. An unexpected breakdown also becomes far less likely.

What Eskom has done is to ignore maintenance for so long that they now have no clue what state any components of a much larger and more complex "engine" aka a power plant, are in.
 

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If you've ever seen a maintenance you'll see that they have targets to keep breakdowns below a level. You do that by maintaining equipment which ensures that you have good predictability. This is obvious.

What are you on about and which track are you on now.

It is illogical by definition to make a statement that you will keep unplanned maintenance at low managed levels. I fail to see why you are arguing against it but be stubborn just like Eskom.

Again, you CANNOT by any sense of the definition keep anything related to unplanned maintenance below a certain or above a certain level otherwise you need to use a different definition and its not related to unplanned maintenance.

Bizarro
 

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If you don't do any planned maintenance, all your maintenance becomes unplanned.
If you don't maintain your car, you better be prepared to break down a lot.
 

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What are you on about and which track are you on now.

It is illogical by definition to make a statement that you will keep unplanned maintenance at low managed levels. I fail to see why you are arguing against it but be stubborn just like Eskom.

Again, you CANNOT by any sense of the definition keep anything related to unplanned maintenance below a certain or above a certain level otherwise you need to use a different definition and its not related to unplanned maintenance.

Bizarro
You are ignorant of maintenance engineering.
 

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Sunday bump. This headline is perfect for giving people a heart attack on a weekend...
 
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