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[Cosmik Debris]

If we go back i time, say before 1909 when seed oils were supposedly cleansed(bleached) and made edible(hydrogenated) then diabetes type 2 was unknown and therefore cost nothing,

So, according to you, only seed oil is responsible for type 2 diabetes? Or would you like to name some other causes?

If we look at university of California YouTube Prof Lustig will tell you medicare costs are increasing every year for all the metabolic diseases ie diabetes 2 heart disease stroke and certain cancers,

I don't need a professor on YT to tell me diabetes is increasing and the costs are too. Any medical professional will tell you that from medical sources. Tell me the causes of type 2 diabetes.

And I'm still waiting for your diagnosis of the symptoms I gave you. Any real doctor who has been to university and has practiced will diagnose the problem within 10 minutes. You claimed google replaces doctors. So tell me what the cause of the symptoms is. Google is your friend.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

The problem here is that collusion is illegal as in the bread price fixing that happened some time ago. Association is not causation unless there is huge synchronicity such as the case of smoking causing lung cancer. I can't say I have anything against pharmaceutical companies or IT companies. I got my money for the work,

So, are all big pharma companies colluding to make the population sick, or aren't they?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

I can't claim credit for that one because it;s paraphrasing Prof Noakes

Then give me the cause of the symptoms I described using google as you claimed doctors are no longer relevant since google. Noakes has nothing to do with my question.

I'm awaiting your expert google diagnosis. Would you like me to repeat the symptoms?

 

[russellw1]

So, are all big pharma companies colluding to make the population sick, or aren't they?

So, are all big pharma companies colluding to make the population sick, or aren't they?

With whom? If you say sugar association then go to university of California and look at the proof, Online sugar indusry doccuments found because the Tobacco industry owns certain food companies. Now how much of big pharma does big tobacco own? Maybe there is an association there.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

With whom? If you say sugar association then go to university of California and look at the proof, Online sugar indusry doccuments found because the Tobacco industry owns certain food companies. Now how much of big pharma does big tobacco own? Maybe there is an association there.

You stated big pharma were colluding. You make the claim, you provide the evidence to back up your claim. Now post the links or references to the claims you just made.

And I'm still waiting for you to diagnose symptoms using google any doctor will take 10 minutes to diagnose. Why am I waiting so long for you to prove google can replace a doctor?

 

[russellw1]

Then give me the cause of the symptoms I described using google as you claimed doctors are no longer relevant since google. Noakes has nothing to do with my question.

I'm awaiting your expert google diagnosis. Would you like me to repeat the symptoms?

You stated big pharma were colluding. You make the claim, you provide the evidence to back up your claim. Now post the links or references to the claims you just made.

And I'm still waiting for you to diagnose symptoms using google any doctor will take 10 minutes to diagnose. Why am I waiting so long for you to prove google can replace a doctor?

It took me a while to remember the youtube video with reference to this question. Now I will find it and post the link. This should fix the circular logic problem we have here.

 

[russellw1]

So, are all big pharma companies colluding to make the population sick, or aren't they?

There is a nephrologist, Dr Johnson, doing research into what makes us sick. "Nature wants us to be fat". He links stress fruit sugar(fructose) uric acid and metabolism of palmitic acid in the liver. Did you ever think that every time mitochondria try to burn polyunsaturates the electron transport chain is disrupted by the double bonds which slow down ATP production and require an enzyme to clear the "log jam". this also causes inflammation and stress hence glucose is converted to fructose as a consequence. The liver will then produce palmitic acid (triglyceride) uric acid and damaging oxygen free-radicals. High uric acid disrupts kidney function and therefor causes hypertension. High triglyceride is an indicator for heart disease and is a result of a LACK of good cholesterol to transport it to our cells.
If this scenario is correct then statin drugs are a very bad idea.

 

[russellw1]

You stated big pharma were colluding. You make the claim, you provide the evidence to back up your claim. Now post the links or references to the claims you just made.

And I'm still waiting for you to diagnose symptoms using google any doctor will take 10 minutes to diagnose. Why am I waiting so long for you to prove google can replace a doctor?

Expert computer system otherwise now called AI are already able to diagnose some diseases and some test patients actually prefer the computer to a doctor.

 

[russellw1]

So, according to you, only seed oil is responsible for type 2 diabetes? Or would you like to name some other causes?



I don't need a professor on YT to tell me diabetes is increasing and the costs are too. Any medical professional will tell you that from medical sources. Tell me the causes of type 2 diabetes.

And I'm still waiting for your diagnosis of the symptoms I gave you. Any real doctor who has been to university and has practiced will diagnose the problem within 10 minutes. You claimed google replaces doctors. So tell me what the cause of the symptoms is. Google is your friend.

There is a french paradox where they traditionally eat lots of butter and fat and carbohydrates and they are amongst the most healthy people in the world. The record for the oldest woman was 122 and she was a smoker and french. Sugar industry documents admit that it can cause obesity and diabetes (due to 50% fructose content}.
The real paradox is that we think we can eat seed oil , sucrose sugar and high fructose corn syrup without ill effect, I discovered this when my brother nearly died from a bleeding ulcer where doctors then found a 9cm tumor and inspite of treatment he passed away 9 months later. We should have been warned by the fact that some lifts would overload and make us get out. He was more than 150 kg and I was over 100kg. I now know this was metabolic syndrome, I didn't eat much seed oil because of re-flux at that time but I did have uric acid kidney-stones.

To be clear fruit sugar {fructose} seems to be the one common denominator for both sugar and seed oil. Ever heard of metabolic syndrome, non alcoholic fatty liver disease. diabetes stroke heart disease, and some cancers.

 

[russellw1]

Is saturated fat good? Never mind slowing down cancer.
Without fat marine mammals cannot survive because the do not drink sea water. Runners can finish a marathon without water and camels can survive desert conditions all because of the chemistry of fat. It is able to supply 18 carbon and 36 hydrogen atoms to react with 54 atmospheric oxygen atoms which result in 18 CO2 and 18 H2O.
Since the molar mass of oxygen is higher than carbon we might end up with greater a mass of water than the fat.
That a lot of water.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

It took me a while to remember the youtube video with reference to this question. Now I will find it and post the link. This should fix the circular logic problem we have here.

You consider YouTube videos more authoritative than several years of medical study at university and medical internships?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

There is a nephrologist, Dr Johnson, doing research into what makes us sick. "Nature wants us to be fat". He links stress fruit sugar(fructose) uric acid and metabolism of palmitic acid in the liver. Did you ever think that every time mitochondria try to burn polyunsaturates the electron transport chain is disrupted by the double bonds which slow down ATP production and require an enzyme to clear the "log jam". this also causes inflammation and stress hence glucose is converted to fructose as a consequence. The liver will then produce palmitic acid (triglyceride) uric acid and damaging oxygen free-radicals. High uric acid disrupts kidney function and therefor causes hypertension. High triglyceride is an indicator for heart disease and is a result of a LACK of good cholesterol to transport it to our cells.
If this scenario is correct then statin drugs are a very bad idea.

And all these well known medical processes are being researched by some doctor again? Why? It's already known.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Expert computer system otherwise now called AI are already able to diagnose some diseases and some test patients actually prefer the computer to a doctor.

Well then, use the system and diagnose the problem I presented. But remember GIGO - Garbage In = Garbage Out. Still waiting for you with your google ability to diagnose the problem as you stated doctors are no longer required, just google is.

And no AI can replace any doctor's medical training. I would love to see AI being used in a car accident to tell a paramedic what to do. We can then do away with paramedics and you, the bystander, can treat the accident victims using your smartphone. Ever wondered why paramedics must know what is in the manual and pass exams on what is in it instead of just being sent out to an accident and then reading up what to do from the manual?

 

[russellw1]

And all these well known medical processes are being researched by some doctor again? Why? It's already known.

Science doesn't halt once a doctor is qualified. Technology won't wait for me. If I believed that 4G is state of the art then I am left behind when 5G is now state of the art.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Is saturated fat good? Never mind slowing down cancer.
Without fat marine mammals cannot survive because the do not drink sea water. Runners can finish a marathon without water and camels can survive desert conditions all because of the chemistry of fat. It is able to supply 18 carbon and 36 hydrogen atoms to react with 54 atmospheric oxygen atoms which result in 18 CO2 and 18 H2O.
Since the molar mass of oxygen is higher than carbon we might end up with greater a mass of water than the fat.
That a lot of water.

You are neither a camel nor marine mammal. Their physiology is adapted to their circumstances. You would die rapidly living in their circumstances. Irrelevant information.

 

[Cosmik Debris]

Science doesn't halt once a doctor is qualified. Technology won't wait for me. If I believed that 4G is state of the art then I am left behind when 5G is now state of the art.

So you think doctors stagnate after training? Nothing new after that then?

 

[Cosmik Debris]

There is a french paradox where they traditionally eat lots of butter and fat and carbohydrates and they are amongst the most healthy people in the world. The record for the oldest woman was 122 and she was a smoker and french. Sugar industry documents admit that it can cause obesity and diabetes (due to 50% fructose content}.
The real paradox is that we think we can eat seed oil , sucrose sugar and high fructose corn syrup without ill effect, I discovered this when my brother nearly died from a bleeding ulcer where doctors then found a 9cm tumor and inspite of treatment he passed away 9 months later. We should have been warned by the fact that some lifts would overload and make us get out. He was more than 150 kg and I was over 100kg. I now know this was metabolic syndrome, I didn't eat much seed oil because of re-flux at that time but I did have uric acid kidney-stones.

To be clear fruit sugar {fructose} seems to be the one common denominator for both sugar and seed oil. Ever heard of metabolic syndrome, non alcoholic fatty liver disease. diabetes stroke heart disease, and some cancers.

You're regurgitating well known medical science not relevant to this thread. There is a weight loss thread for you under off topic.

 

[russellw1]

You're regurgitating well known medical science not relevant to this thread. There is a weight loss thread for you under off topic.

So you read weight loss from what I wrote even when my subject is obesity, metabolic disease and cancer?

 

[russellw1]

You are neither a camel nor marine mammal. Their physiology is adapted to their circumstances. You would die rapidly living in their circumstances. Irrelevant information.

All animal cells use the krebs cycle. Are we mammals or are we not? I'm ready to learn something new.

 

[russellw1]

You consider YouTube videos more authoritative than several years of medical study at university and medical internships?

So you think doctors stagnate after training? Nothing new after that then?

When I mention keto to my doctor he says "go for it" but then he is young and from the Cape. The others say keto acidosis which is a problem for type one diabetics, like our neighbour. She sadly now has serious health issues due to both Hyperglycenia and acidosis.