EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

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What reason should I have to be optimistic? You seem to think it's a good thing that trials of abuse get televised so everyone can decide if they believe the accusations. As if the general public doesn't have an innate bias to believing men and especially beloved celebrities. As if TikTok and other social media won't circulate clips of facial reactions during traumatic accounts and use them to mock and vilify the accuser. As if the courtroom won't turn into a circus where hundreds of fans can show up daily and stand outside mocking the accuser on their way in.

Trials like this should not happen in public, imo.

It's great that the trial is televised because the media has no shred of truth left. Because you swallow what your biased sources say wholesale does not mean they are based in any reality.
 

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1) It is a good thing - it allows transparency into the courtroom and the media can't perform any ****ery.
2) LOOOOOOOL, will you sit there and honestly say unironically that the general public believes male celebrities over females? What about Bill Cosby? Weinstein? Even Depp, they were all condemned before they even had a chance to get their pants on.
3) Well I will agree with you on this - this should not be the case. Only court staff and officials should be allowed anywhere near the building, it's not a publicity show.

You should have brought up Kavanaugh. That was even worse than the Depp coverage. cerebus was all too happy for the guy to have a mock trial by media and politician because "he is a public figure".
 

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You should have brought up Kavanaugh. That was even worse than the Depp coverage. cerebus was all too happy for the guy to have a mock trial by media and politician because "he is a public figure".

When did Kavanaugh ever go on trial? I thought the testimonies were part of the confirmation hearings. And I also seem to remember you mocking Blasey Ford. Although I could be wrong about that.
 

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So you've basically already decided Ricky is guilty. Without even a shred of evidence.

I haven't decided anything. I just know how this was gonna go based on how the Amber trial went.

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Don't blame him at all for backing off the allegations. It's gonna be the same for any victims of abuse from now on. It's more pain than it's worth to come forward.
 

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That's a terrible example, Cosby and Weinstein got away with their crimes for years because they were very powerful men in their industry and their victims were afraid to come forward. Especially Cosby with his oh-so-wholesome reputation.

I don't agree/disagree but citing Cosby and Weinstein is not a great way to make your point.

"Condemned before they even had a chance to get their pants on" apparently now means getting away with drugging and raping a string of women for 40 years.
 

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That's a terrible example, Cosby and Weinstein got away with their crimes for years because they were very powerful men in their industry and their victims were afraid to come forward. Especially Cosby with his oh-so-wholesome reputation.

I don't agree/disagree but citing Cosby and Weinstein is not a great way to make your point.
I'm not saying they are innocent, they should have been executed for their crimes - what I'm saying is it was never a case of innocent until proven guilty when the accusations came out - that's the issue. It doesn't matter who I cite - the point still stands.
 

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Again, your ability to miss the point is absolutely outstanding.

No, I got your point. You're just completely wrong. Weinstein and Cosby are prime examples of men who got away with abuse for years. It was covered up by those around them and in Cosby's case the first allegations go back to 1969. He was only convicted in 2018 - nearly 50 years after. We just let this disgusting predator carry on his behaviour because we couldn't stand the thought that America's dad could do anything bad, because in our minds his public persona and real personality are indistinguishable.
 

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I'm not saying they are innocent, they should have been executed for their crimes - what I'm saying is it was never a case of innocent until proven guilty when the accusations came out - that's the issue. It doesn't matter who I cite - the point still stands.
You do know that Bill Cosby is not currently in prison? He got released on a technicality because a prosecutor gave him immunity, your point is rubbish. The idea that everyone just assumed he was guilty is ludicrous.
 

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There's a pretty good (unbiased) podcast about the appeal process here:

 

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When did Kavanaugh ever go on trial? I thought the testimonies were part of the confirmation hearings. And I also seem to remember you mocking Blasey Ford. Although I could be wrong about that.

I didn't mock her. I however did question her nonsense. You however were very quick to determine that Kavanaugh was a serial sexual offender off the back of hearsay evidence. And you were very happily cheering on the public spectacle. Amber Heard chose to reveal her accusations in the media to get attention onto herself, and now she is getting karmic justice.

The only standard you have is latching onto what your own sources say in the media.
 

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This is what it looks like when a coddled man-child surrounds himself with leeches and yes-men who cater to all his self-destructive impulses. But sure we should believe the testimonies of everyone whose livelihood depends on keeping Depp happy right

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The only standard you have is discrediting abuse victims from the outset

I am outspoken when woman make allegations for their own personal reasons, other than justice. We should all be. Women who weaponize their gender and sexuality make me respond very strongly. There are many other threads which discuss abuse allegations which I have not "discredited". You also seem to spectacularly fail at realizing Heard "discredited" herself. But, I don't think you will understand that nuance because you are too busy lashing out at how the public responded to the trial instead of the evidence in the trial.

You are in the wrong on this one, just like with Kavanaugh.
 

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This thread is going to hit 150 pages. cerebus is going to properly triggered if Heard's appeal is denied (which it most likely is going to be).
 

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This thread is going to hit 150 pages. cerebus is going to properly triggered if Heard's appeal is denied (which it most likely is going to be).

I stepped out of the thread. Tetrasect was the one who revived it. I'll step out again unless there's some more news. I also don't have a lot of faith that her appeal will be successful, but I hope it will.
 
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