EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

[Splinter]

What reason should I have to be optimistic? You seem to think it's a good thing that trials of abuse get televised so everyone can decide if they believe the accusations. As if the general public doesn't have an innate bias to believing men and especially beloved celebrities. As if TikTok and other social media won't circulate clips of facial reactions during traumatic accounts and use them to mock and vilify the accuser. As if the courtroom won't turn into a circus where hundreds of fans can show up daily and stand outside mocking the accuser on their way in.

Trials like this should not happen in public, imo.

Are you a female??? That might explain a lot of things.

 

[Splinter]

She hasn't actually paid yet, she's only "pledged" it.

This filing notifies the court of the her appeal but the actual appeal and the cash payment only has to be done before September.

Can only be Musk.....

 

[cerebus]

You better call the cops then because that means most people in a relationship are victims of abuse.

But more importantly, Amber Heard didn't accuse Depp of gaslighting, "being controlling" or "blaming her for his actions", she accused him of savage beatings and rape.

Excuse me, what did Amber 'accuse' Depp of? The only thing she ever said about herself is that she was a public figure representing victims of abuse. When she was sued, she brought out her evidence and that included both incidents of severe physical as well as mental and emotional and sexual abuse.

The basic definition of abuse is a pattern of behaviour used to establish coercive control:

What Is Domestic Abuse? | United Nations

www.un.org

Domestic abuse, also called "domestic violence" or "intimate partner violence", can be defined as a pattern of behavior in any relationship that is used to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. Abuse is physical, sexual, emotional, economic or psychological actions or threats of actions that influence another person. This includes any behaviors that frighten, intimidate, terrorize, manipulate, hurt, humiliate, blame, injure, or wound someone.

In my view Depp is guilty of every single one of those definitions. He gaslit her constantly. He had his psychiatrists administer drugs to her to keep her under control. He accused her of sleeping with her co-stars and sabotaged her movie projects because of his paranoia about her infidelity and her appearing nude onscreen. That's what he was writing on the walls about. He tried to convince her that she was to blame for his own violence and crazy behavior, rather than the fact that he had half the produce of Bolivia up his nose.

You are absolutely talking out of your ass. Get educated.

 

[Splinter]

That's a terrible example, Cosby and Weinstein got away with their crimes for years because they were very powerful men in their industry and their victims were afraid to come forward. Especially Cosby with his oh-so-wholesome reputation.

I don't agree/disagree but citing Cosby and Weinstein is not a great way to make your point.

But the point is, once the trial started, they were not shielded by this "the general public believe men" BS from cerebus.

They were castigated based on the facts presented and convicted and jailed.

 

[Splinter]

/snip

You are absolutely talking out of your ass. Get educated.

You are so hypocritical and blind that I almost feel sorry for you.

Almost.

 

[cerebus]

Actually, her diagnosis was that she scored so high on the PTSD tests that the only explanation was that she was intentionally trying to exaggerate and fake her symptoms.

That is a pretty crappy diagnosis imo. You're so ptsd that you're lying about your ptsd. Must be histrionic.

 

[ShaunSA]

You are so hypocritical and blind that I almost feel sorry for you.

Almost.

Sorry? I vote we buy him a dunce cap and make him sit in the corner

Then again he might just enjoy that

 

[Cray]

But the point is, once the trial started, they were not shielded by this "the general public believe men" BS from cerebus.

They were castigated based on the facts presented and convicted and jailed.

Agreed.

 

[Splinter]

Sorry? I vote we buy him a dunce cap and make him sit in the corner

Then again he might just enjoy that

That would be unfair to both the cap and the corner.

 

[Splinter]

No, I got your point. You're just completely wrong. Weinstein and Cosby are prime examples of men who got away with abuse for years. It was covered up by those around them and in Cosby's case the first allegations go back to 1969. He was only convicted in 2018 - nearly 50 years after. We just let this disgusting predator carry on his behaviour because we couldn't stand the thought that America's dad could do anything bad, because in our minds his public persona and real personality are indistinguishable.

Yes, they got away with it - until it came out into the public domain!!!!

So who is this frikken "we" you refer to? Another one of your moronically incorrect generalizations and assumptions?

 

[tetrasect]

Except for Dawn Hughes who definitively diagnosed her with PTSD. Shannon Curry had 12 hours to make her diagnoses whereas Dawn Hughes had years of work with Amber Heard and put together a comprehensive study of Amber and Depp.

Watch the trial dude

Yeah now keep watching till you see Hughes get absolutely shredded with facts.

She is not a forensic psychologist.

I can walk into a doctors office today and claim I have extreme pain in my leg and when he pokes it I can pretend to cry out and he will probably give me painkillers. That's Hughes. She has no reason to doubt Amber's self-diagnosis.

A forensic doctor would poke my leg on the sly and when I fail to react he would know something is up and when I cry out in pain 5 seconds later he will know that I'm pretending. That's Curry. She is a forensic psychologist.

But I suspect you already know this and are just dancing around like roadrunner to prevent yourself from falling down the cliff.

 

[ShaunSA]

But I suspect you already know this and are just dancing around like roadrunner to prevent yourself from falling down the cliff.

 

[YoungSandwich]

That is a pretty crappy diagnosis imo. You're so ptsd that you're lying about your ptsd. Must be histrionic.

You have to be taking the piss right now??

 

[cerebus]

Yes, they got away with it - until it came out into the public domain!!!!

So who is this frikken "we" you refer to? Another one of your moronically incorrect generalizations and assumptions?

The information was well out in the public domain for decades. Weinstein had over 100 allegations of assault against him. Cosby had over 60. The women were paid off, lawsuits were settled. Weinstein was basically an open secret in Hollywood for years. He was shielded from consequences because we the public chose to look the other way. Be it the media or whatever, there was enough information to condemn both of them a long time ago.

Hell, look at Chris Brown. People are still recording with him like Joey Badass even though there's so much known about his track record already.

 

[tetrasect]

Excuse me, what did Amber 'accuse' Depp of?

She testified under oath that he raped and beat her.

The only thing she ever said about herself is that she was a public figure representing victims of abuse.

In the op-ed she mentioned sexual abuse, which also happens to be physical abuse.

When she was sued, she brought out her evidence and that included both incidents of severe physical as well as mental and emotional and sexual abuse.

The basic definition of abuse is a pattern of behaviour used to establish coercive control:

What Is Domestic Abuse? | United Nations

www.un.org

In my view Depp is guilty of every single one of those definitions. He gaslit her constantly. He had his psychiatrists administer drugs to her to keep her under control. He accused her of sleeping with her co-stars and sabotaged her movie projects because of his paranoia about her infidelity and her appearing nude onscreen. That's what he was writing on the walls about. He tried to convince her that she was to blame for his own violence and crazy behavior, rather than the fact that he had half the produce of Bolivia up his nose.

None of that is sexual or physical abuse. None of what you highlighted is applicable to Amber's accusations.

You are the one that's gaslighting here now. Amber literally said that he raped her with a broken bottle and beat her to a pulp and you're going on about "manipulation".

You are absolutely talking out of your ass. Get educated.

An education in ignorance and how to sly away from a discussion you're loosing while making yourself believe you are right?

 

[tetrasect]

That is a pretty crappy diagnosis imo. You're so ptsd that you're lying about your ptsd. Must be histrionic.

Ok Mr. forensic psychologist. You know best.

 

[Splinter]

The information was well out in the public domain for decades. Weinstein had over 100 allegations of assault against him. Cosby had over 60. The women were paid off, lawsuits were settled. Weinstein was basically an open secret in Hollywood for years. He was shielded from consequences because we the public chose to look the other way. Be it the media or whatever, there was enough information to condemn both of them a long time ago.

Hell, look at Chris Brown. People are still recording with him like Joey Badass even though there's so much known about his track record already.

Yeah, yeah - I din't even know who Weinstein was until the story broke once that journalist published her article.

Tell me something - what did YOU do about it, seeing as it was common knowledge?

 

[cerebus]

What did he destroy? He tipped over some clothing racks. Nothing was destroyed.
And as we have seen, he was not the only "scrawler" in the house:

Though she is the only one being dishonest and trying to hide it:

I looked into this claim a bit this morning. I find it quite unlikely that she put this message. Mainly because:
1) Carly Simon is way before her time.
2) Depp actually recorded You're So Vain with his bestie Marilyn Manson
3) It's in Depp's own handwriting.

You'd have to be pretty desperate to pin that on Amber tbh. Maybe because you know that frankly, that scene does not look good for Depp. Even if you somehow believe that he never hurt her - which I find absurd - he trashed her apartment, wrecked her furniture, and scrawled on her room in a drunk blackout stupor. That's not normal behavior and it shows that he, not her, is the problematic one in the relationship.

Even Depp's bodyguard saw bruises on her arm and was recorded as saying they had to separate them or one of them would be dead.

She testified under oath that he raped and beat her.


In the op-ed she mentioned sexual abuse, which also happens to be physical abuse.


None of that is sexual or physical abuse. None of what you highlighted is applicable to Amber's accusations.

You are the one that's gaslighting here now. Amber literally said that he raped her with a broken bottle and beat her to a pulp and you're going on about "manipulation".

Why is one exclusive of another? There are so many forms of abuse and they go hand in hand. Gaslighting is abuse. Sexual assault is also abuse. Amber's statement in the op-ed was so broad that any one of those forms of abuse could have been valid. You're being quite dishonest.

 

[dualmeister]

The Amber Heard thing is still a thing?

 

[tetrasect]

I looked into this claim a bit this morning. I find it quite unlikely that she put this message. Mainly because:
1) Carly Simon is way before her time.
2) Depp actually recorded You're So Vain with his bestie Marilyn Manson
3) It's in Depp's own handwriting.

You'd have to be pretty desperate to pin that on Amber tbh. Maybe because you know that frankly, that scene does not look good for Depp. Even if you somehow believe that he never hurt her - which I find absurd - he trashed her apartment, wrecked her furniture, and scrawled on her room in a drunk blackout stupor. That's not normal behavior and it shows that he, not her, is the problematic one in the relationship.

So Depp wrote both things on the mirror and then tried to erase only the pink writing after he had already left the apartment? Huh? Please think before posting.

Even Depp's bodyguard saw bruises on her arm and was recorded as saying they had to separate them or one of them would be dead.

Two people fighting is not abuse.
You think when a boxer steps into the ring he can then claim that the other boxer abused him?
Or maybe you're just a sexist?

Why is one exclusive of another?

Why does the definition of rape exclude manipulation? Are you for real?

There are so many forms of abuse and they go hand in hand. Gaslighting is abuse. Sexual assault is also abuse.

But gaslighting is not evidence of sexual assault.

Amber's statement in the op-ed was so broad that any one of those forms of abuse could have been valid. You're being quite dishonest.

No it wasn't. She said sexual abuse.

And why are you suddenly trying to limit the discussion to the op-ed while completely ignoring what she said on the stand?

Did you finally realize that she was lying?