EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

[cerebus]

You have a complete lack of understanding of what happened between those too, and if you don't understand yet you never will. And I am not going to be the one to explain it to you for the 500th thousand time.

To be frank, I don't even know what you think happened between them. You don't have any kind of consistent story that can fit together into a timeline that matches the evidence that we have. You just think she started making up stories about Depp abusing her from the very beginning of the relationship and fabricated evidence and roped all her friends in, all while secretly abusing Johnny Depp who never touched her except in self-defense? For what? It's ludicrous. She got no money out of it. She even went on to date Elon Musk and dumped him without getting any money. So she's not in it for the money, so what is it then? None of it makes an ounce of sense.

Meanwhile there's a very simple, believable narrative the other direction. Depp married her then went more and more off the rails with his drinking and drug abuse. There were tons of articles about it at the time and everyone was worried about his behaviour on set and off. They were photographed together with her having bruises and people began to notice that as well. Their close friends all knew that he was abusing her and tried to help but he forced his staff to cover up for him constantly. Some of them are still recorded acknowledging that he was dangerously abusive towards her. It was an open secret for a long time.

Eventually she filed a restraining order and left him. He lost his lawsuit against the Sun, badly, then went after her in the US. He ran a huge astroturfing campaign with his scumbag lawyer Adam Waldman who was eventually barred from the trial. He set out to destroy her with the trial which is why he insisted on it being televised. He humiliated her in front of the world and did massive damage to all victims of domestic abuse. f that guy.

 

[Moosedrool]

It's like repeating the fiction makes it fact.

I'm done there is no cure for this delusion.

 

[lumeer]

She never claimed that a man couldn't be abused, she just said that abusers are typically male. And that is of course true.

I wrote that she seemed unwilling to concede that a woman could abuse a man, not that she seemed unwilling to concede that a man could be abused. When she was pressed on whether she had ever testified on behalf of a male abuse victim, her answer was that she had done so only in the case of same-sex relationships, i.e. where a man had abused another man. She had never testified on behalf of a man who had been abused by a woman.

 

[lumeer]

I can't imagine that the scale of one-sided social media attention was ever nearly as prevalent in the Chauvin trial.

I would argue that it was in fact far greater, because of all the BLM protests that had taken place in the preceding years.

 

[cerebus]

I would argue that it was in fact far greater, because of all the BLM protests that had taken place in the preceding years.

Then you'd have to prove that it was far greater. The Bot Sentinel report said that social media presence pro-Johnny Depp was unprecedented so perhaps you have better data?

Also just a little relevant: Derek Chauvin pled guilty.

I wrote that she seemed unwilling to concede that a woman could abuse a man, not that she seemed unwilling to concede that a man could be abused. When she was pressed on whether she had ever testified on behalf of a male abuse victim, her answer was that she had done so only in the case of same-sex relationships, i.e. where a man had abused another man. She had never testified on behalf of a man who had been abused by a woman.

She wasn't unwilling to concede anything and I posted the quote proving it. She made a point out of saying that she had to avoid the stereotype that men couldn't be abused. Somehow you got this impression that she's a man-hater and I don't know where but I suspect it's from distorted social media videos.

 

[Splinter]

I suspect good old cerebus thinks he will "win" this debate if he just carries on posting long enough so the rest give up in incredulous frustration.

The entertainment value from Mr. Extrapolator is far too high though. I, at least, commit to seeing this out to the ludicrous end.

 

[Emjay]

Eventually she filed a restraining order and left him. He lost his lawsuit against the Sun, badly, then went after her in the US. He ran a huge astroturfing campaign with his scumbag lawyer Adam Waldman who was eventually barred from the trial. He set out to destroy her with the trial which is why he insisted on it being televised. He humiliated her in front of the world and did massive damage to all victims of domestic abuse. f that guy.

She humiliated herself. All the allegations she made were for her own gain. And she lost.

Boo hoo. F that woman. She is getting her dues.

 

[cerebus]

I suspect good old cerebus thinks he will "win" this debate if he just carries on posting long enough so the rest give up in incredulous frustration.

The entertainment value from Mr. Extrapolator is far too high though. I, at least, commit to seeing this out to the ludicrous end.

You know all I'm doing is responding to people on here. If they keep @'ing me then what should I do, ignore it? I guess I probably should but whatever. The facts are on my side here and the media is changing its opinion very quickly.

She humiliated herself.

To be more correct, she was humiliated deliberately by her vindictive ex-husband

What a charmer hey? Oh wait I mean victim. Even though literally none of his expert witnesses would stoop to calling him a victim of domestic abuse.

 

[Emjay]

Thank you. Then that's the whole point here. Amber Heard is the one who defended herself and fought back. She also testified that yeah after a while of that kind of abuse she lost the plot and did sometimes instigate fights. She probably became a bit of a nightmare herself at one point, but she was systematically abused by Depp so can you blame her? That's exactly what Dr Hughes is saying.

In their conversations it's also clear. He complains about her throwing a can at his nose, and she said that she thought he was going to kill her. But you believe him and not her, despite the fact that it's coming from the same piece of audio.

Your takeaway is that she was SYSTEMATICALLY ABUSED?

BWAHAHAHAHA.

 

[Emjay]

You know all I'm doing is responding to people on here. If they keep @'ing me then what should I do, ignore it? I guess I probably should but whatever. The facts are on my side here and the media is changing its opinion very quickly.



To be more correct, she was humiliated deliberately by her vindictive ex-husband

What a charmer hey? Oh wait I mean victim. Even though literally none of his expert witnesses would stoop to calling him a victim of domestic abuse.

You expect a man who was cheated on (multiple times), abused by this psycho woman and used by her hanger on friends to be all nice and collegial after the fact? After she threatened, through her lawyers, to go to the media to extort settlement money from him? Life is not a movie on display for everyone. There are real emotions involved, and real heartbreak.

This text does not change anything. JD is not a great guy, but did he abuse Heard? Nope. He however did what he promised. Heard instigated this herself.

 

[cerebus]

Your takeaway is that she was SYSTEMATICALLY ABUSED?

BWAHAHAHAHA.

I love how you lot think laughing incredulously at me is equal to debunking what I say.

 

[Emjay]

I love how you lot think laughing incredulously at me is equal to debunking what I say.

What you are saying has been debunked months ago. Go watch the ****ing trial.

 

[cerebus]

What you are saying has been debunked months ago.

Nonsense.

Go watch the ****ing trial.

 

[Moosedrool]

What you are saying has been debunked months ago. Go watch the ****ing trial.

You really think even watching it he'll change his mind? From what I can see all the facts goes out the window and he bases his argument with very emotionally fuelled replies because of texts and a raised voice here and there. As if a guy can't get angry.

 

[Emjay]

Nonsense.

Your takes on things are so ludicrously bad sometimes, one wonders how you function.

Edit.

And, it's a tweet from Michele Dauber. Cannot get more ironic than that.

 

[tetrasect]

You really think even watching it he'll change his mind? From what I can see all the facts goes out the window and he bases his argument with very emotionally fuelled replies because of texts and a raised voice here and there. As if a guy can't get angry.

He's afraid to watch the trial cause it might force him to change his mind.

He cannot allow that.

At this stage you'd have to pull some clockwork orange schit to make that happen.

 

[Emjay]

You really think even watching it he'll change his mind? From what I can see all the facts goes out the window and he bases his argument with very emotionally fuelled replies because of texts and a raised voice here and there. As if a guy can't get angry.

I don't. It's fun to point and laugh at how ridiculous this is though.

 

[Splinter]

You know all I'm doing is responding to people on here. If they keep @'ing me then what should I do, ignore it? I guess I probably should but whatever. The facts are on my side here and the media is changing its opinion very quickly.



To be more correct, she was humiliated deliberately by her vindictive ex-husband

What a charmer hey? Oh wait I mean victim. Even though literally none of his expert witnesses would stoop to calling him a victim of domestic abuse.

 

[Splinter]

I love how you lot think laughing incredulously at me is equal to debunking what I say.

There is no need to debunk hysterical nonsense extrapolated by yourself

 

[cerebus]

Oh yeah there's no doubt about it.
NBC's documentary was a good start:

Then Gayle King interviewed Camille and said Amber was vilified (7:28)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1552668760460361728

She also said this

Camille's phone is ringing off the hook from men who are reaching out, who have behaved badly or accused of behaving badly with women and in business.

And now HBO is strongly rumored to be reaching out to YouTubers for a documentary called "framing Amber Heard".

It already stinks and it's only going to get worse. I don't think anyone should be comfortable with the idea that a case involving domestic abuse where one person is going to be forced to recount moments of horrendous sexual abuse should ever be televised. Especially not when there's already a vociferous movement of people who believe her to be a liar from the outset.