EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

cerebus

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Kinda of an important point

Granted, I agree there should have been witnesses. I'm not that familiar with the event. I just contend that it looks like he admitted to it all in the message:

"I'm gonna properly stop the booze thing darling," Depp wrote. "Drank all night before I picked Amber up to fly to LA. Ugly mate. No food for days. Powders, half a bottle whiskey, thousand red bulls, pills, two bottles of champagne... I'm admittedly too f**ked in the head to spray my rage at the one I love for little reason as well, I'm too old to be that guy but pills are fine."

It's right there. He claims he went straight to sleep but that's clearly not true.

Depp said he did it to protect Heard. He admitted to telling the doctors a lie:

Yeah I'm sure he did say that when he was questioned. It seems like bs to me. He picked up the finger she supposedly cut off and used it to scrawl obscenities about her on the wall which seems .... healthy.



https://wegotthiscovered.com/news/b...ife-amber-heard-allegedly-injured-his-finger/
Lets take a step back shall we?


https://www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/women-leave/

Considering Amber Heard was on tape, saying that she abused him, and no-one would believe him because he is a man, I find it highly convincing to consider Depp to the the victim of domestic abuse and thus he behaved in the way that a domestic abuse victim would behave.

Amazing hey, he's also on tape saying that he abused her and nobody seems to want to pay attention to that. But they love dragging up this quote which in the full context of the conversation, doesn't mean at all what you're claiming it means.
 

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You're making your name arse. Step away from the keyboard before it gets worse

Oh wait. It's too late for that. As you were then

My name has been arse on the forum for years with certain people.
 

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Granted, I agree there should have been witnesses. I'm not that familiar with the event. I just contend that it looks like he admitted to it all in the message:



It's right there. He claims he went straight to sleep but that's clearly not true.



Yeah I'm sure he did say that when he was questioned. It seems like bs to me. He picked up the finger she supposedly cut off and used it to scrawl obscenities about her on the wall which seems .... healthy.




https://wegotthiscovered.com/news/b...ife-amber-heard-allegedly-injured-his-finger/


Amazing hey, he's also on tape saying that he abused her and nobody seems to want to pay attention to that. But they love dragging up this quote which in the full context of the conversation, doesn't mean at all what you're claiming it means.
See this is what we mean.
You are talking from not seeing any of the evidence in full.

He didn’t pick up the finger she chopped off, he used the finger on his hand.
Oi.
 

cerebus

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See this is what we mean.
You are talking from not seeing any of the evidence in full.

He didn’t pick up the finger she chopped off, he used the finger on his hand.
Oi.

Oooohhhhh my bad that makes all the difference .... wtf. Like wtf. How insane and blasted out of your gourd do you have to be to use your severed finger to scrawl hate messages on a mirror? It's like a cheap crappy version of Hunter S. Thompson.
 

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- Did they both hit each other? Then it's not slander.
- Is Amber Heard a bad person? Doesn't fn matter.
- Is Johnny Depp the real victim of domestic abuse? Total and complete horseshit.

There is definitely abuse from Amber to Depp - verbal, emotional and physical.

When Amber claims bruises are from Depp that is good enough evidence for you, but when Depp claims bruises are from Amber then it's "photoshopped"?
 

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There is definitely abuse from Amber to Depp - verbal, emotional and physical.

When Amber claims bruises are from Depp that is good enough evidence for you, but when Depp claims bruises are from Amber then it's "photoshopped"?
no he says they both beat each other.
 

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There is definitely abuse from Amber to Depp - verbal, emotional and physical.

When Amber claims bruises are from Depp that is good enough evidence for you, but when Depp claims bruises are from Amber then it's "photoshopped"?

I never claimed her bruises are photoshopped. I clearly said she punched him too. I'm just saying she got hammered from him and from what I can tell, it's much worse from him than her. Again, the whole case rests on the very simple question of whether he ever abused her at all.
 

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I never claimed her bruises are photoshopped. I clearly said she punched him too. I'm just saying she got hammered from him and from what I can tell, it's much worse from him than her. Again, the whole case rests on the very simple question of whether he ever abused her at all.

Ok, so when you said "Total and complete horseshit." about Depp being a victim of domestic abuse- what did you mean?
 

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Ok, so when you said "Total and complete horseshit." about Depp being a victim of domestic abuse- what did you mean?

I said the "real victim". Iow the whole claim of his abuse is fabricated and actually SHE'S the real abuser in the relationship. It's horseshit. He lumped her.
 

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I said the "real victim". Iow the whole claim of his abuse is fabricated and actually SHE'S the real abuser in the relationship. It's horseshit. He lumped her.

We have the evidence that she "gave him a shiner" - does that not count as abuse?
 

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We have the evidence that she "gave him a shiner" - does that not count as abuse?
That is what I got from the trail.
She abused him and when he had enough he would lash out.
She is the abuser.
He is the victim that had to defend himself.
And she is now trying to rewrite the story.
 

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And there in lies my Question.
When is it ok to smack the crazy looney back.
Reset her to factory settings when she goes off her rocker.

Difficult question.
I feel if you are within your right to punch back.
 

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Pointless argument chaps.

Move along way more important stuff going on.
 

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And there in lies my Question.
When is it ok to smack the crazy looney back.
Reset her to factory settings when she goes off her rocker.

Difficult question.
I feel if you are within your right to punch back.

In most normal situations it is 100% never right to smack a woman in my opinion.

Physical abuse situations do fundamentally alter that equation though in unpredictable ways unfortunately.

In this instance, both Amber and Depp were abusers but from the trial I would say that Amber was by far and away the worse abuser in the relationship and that on balance of evidence Johnny Depp ends up being the victim who would occasionally lash out after a series of abuses from Amber
 

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Real world is too depressing, this life of sex, drugs and spousal abuse is more entertaining than running out of water in PE.
No need to live vicariously anybody can with a bit of effort.
 

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And there in lies my Question.
When is it ok to smack the crazy looney back.
Reset her to factory settings when she goes off her rocker.

Difficult question.
I feel if you are within your right to punch back.
If it's a self defense situation then the moral standard is minimum necessary force required to subdue the attacker. Anything above that becomes hard to defend.

The problem is that an abusive woman knows they gain the moral high ground after their victim reacts, and so it's quite common for them to use psychological means over a prolonged period to get their victim to overreact. They know what buttons to push and they push them repeatedly.
 

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We have the evidence that she "gave him a shiner" - does that not count as abuse?

If you like, sure. But it's not what I'm saying. There's a conspiracy on here that JD never touched her, that all her accusations are a bald-faced lie, and that in reality the victim all along was HIM. It's beyond absurd. It's a pure fantasy. Somehow I guess it worked with the jury though so... whatever.
 
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