EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

G'Wobblez

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ftfy. That's the only relevant part in your word salad. The message was sent from his phone. It's been entered and accepted into evidence. What's more, the style of writing is so identical to Depp's own ludicrous bombast that it might as well be a fingerprint.
Same as thw handwriting on the mirrors and damaged property matches AH handwriting?
 

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Why did Amber do such an over-the-top display of fake emotion during the first few days of her direct examination, and then, when she saw how she was being mocked for it online, she became calm and unaffected for the remainder of the trial? It made it very hard for me to believe her.
 

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Says the guy who can't even grasp the meaning of "incoming" and "outgoing".

Seriously dude, you are being ridiculous now. Your denial of basic fact is starting to make you look rather insane.

tetrasect: watch the triallllll
also tetrasect: the trial is wrong, my johnny would never send those horrible messages
 

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Why did Amber do such an over-the-top display of fake emotion during the first few days of her direct examination, and then, when she saw how she was being mocked for it online, she became calm and unaffected for the remainder of the trial? It made it very hard for me to believe her.

Why do you give so much credence to body language experts, uncertified psychologists, and doctored youtube videos? You obviously have no idea how PTSD victims should behave under testimony.
 

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Why do you give so much credence to body language experts, uncertified psychologists, and doctored youtube videos? You obviously have no idea how PTSD victims should behave under testimony.
This was my own impression from having watched her. In fact, I regard body language analysis as pseudoscience, and I ignore those videos on YouTube. During her deposition in the UK trial, she was flippant, rolled her eyes, etc. In the US trial, when she discussed the same events, she was overcome with emotion, except it came across as very fake, and then, after the week-long break during which the judge had to attend a conference, Amber was suddenly calm and unaffected. There are also many clips from court showing her with a smile on her face, looking jovial, and when she realises the camera is on her, her expression suddenly becomes sombre.
 

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No, you are mistaken. You can even see the timestamp that the message was "read" by Depp on the incoming, while the outgoing only has a delivery timestamp.

Lookit y'all white knighting for Johnny "fk her burnt corpse" Depp. Precious.
 

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But obviously it was still early days in the relationship so he didn't get into full on telephone-smashing and nose-breaking and bottle-raping territory yet. Young love, you know.

Holy cow. You’ll basically believe anything she says.

I wonder if AH can convince you that you’re a crocodile?
 

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This was my own impression from having watched her. In fact, I regard body language analysis as pseudoscience, and I ignore those videos on YouTube. During her deposition in the UK trial, she was flippant, rolled her eyes, etc. In the US trial, when she discussed the same events, she was overcome with emotion, except it came across as very fake, and then, after the week-long break during which the judge had to attend a conference, Amber was suddenly calm and unaffected. There are also many clips from court showing her with a smile on her face, looking jovial, and when she realises the camera is on her, her expression suddenly becomes sombre.

As I said, you have no idea how PTSD victims should behave on stand. Your reaction is typical of the reason abusers get away with it so easily.


“A woman recounting [what she claims is] her experience of domestic violence in itself is traumatic for many survivors. But that evidence being not just denied, but ridiculed, is deeply harmful and humiliating,” says Ruth Davison, chief executive of the domestic violence charity Refuge. “This is a real trial. The humorousness [around] what’s actually deeply offensive worries me.” Whatever the ultimate verdict in this case, the public response to it sheds a disturbing light on how misogyny persists even in a supposedly “woke” generation.

For many working in the field, that response illustrates some wearily familiar tropes: that if it was really so bad she should have left sooner (on average it takes seven attempts before a woman leaves an abusive partner, according to Refuge); that she’s a “crazy ex”, seeking attention or a hefty divorce settlement; that he is so likable he couldn’t possibly have done it.

Yet it’s far from unusual, Davison says, for perpetrators to seem “nice”. “These are all characteristics of abusers – that they can lovebomb you, that they’re incredibly charming.” And, while well-loved celebrities may seem more likely to enjoy the benefit of the doubt, she points out that in real life victims themselves can initially find it hard to acknowledge that the man they love is abusive, telling themselves his behaviour was simply out of character.

Perhaps the most pervasive trope, however, is that there is such a thing as a “model” victim against whom others can – and should – be judged. Heard has been criticised for crying too much, or not crying enough; one popular online theory is that her occasional glances in Depp’s direction and his reluctance to make eye contact show he’s more frightened of her than the other way round.

London’s victims commissioner, Claire Waxman, is a regular observer of family courts. She frequently meets abuse survivors and has been the victim of stalking in the past. There is, she says firmly, no such thing as a typical way to behave on the witness stand. “Some victims are completely devoid of any emotion, and that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. They are disconnected – it’s quite a normal response to trauma. Whereas others can’t even put a sentence together because they’re crying so much, and that’s normal, too.”
 

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As I said, you have no idea how PTSD victims should behave on stand. Your reaction is typical of the reason abusers get away with it so easily.

but it was established that she didn’t have ptsd,other personality disorders but not Ptsd.
 
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