EXCLUSIVE: 'I can't promise I won't get physical again, I get so mad I lose it.' LISTEN as Amber Heard admits to 'hitting' ex-husband Johnny Depp

[cerebus]

BWAHAHAHAHA

Great re'butt'al.. ha. But it's obviously what he says, in context.

I head butted you in the ****ing forehead, that doesn’t break a nose.

He's just downplaying her claims that the headbutt broke her nose.

 

[cerebus]

It was the cell phone incident when IO called 911.

Just to get you going.

Yeah **** sorry I had my facts tangled up with these incidents. I'll try to find the correct audio segments. The full audio where they eventually discussed the headbutting is here:

part 1

Part 2

I listened to it because Emjay claimed that Depp was begging her not to publish the WAPO article. But that's clearly false since it's from 2016. So the whole audio is basically him begging her not to go to court.

Honestly I'm not sure of the full details of the headbutting and who saw what there. I was thinking of the phone throwing incident which is by far the best corroborated of all her accounts.

 

[cerebus]

Then why do you quote out of context and drop vital words when relaying your vast knowledge here?

I'm not deliberately quoting anything out of context. I'm always trying to add the context to statements. I omitted one word "if" from the statement made by Depp because I didn't think it added anything materially to what he said. Tetrasect's claim that the word 'if' actually supports a view that SHE was the abuser is just comically bad.

It's a basic fact that in a relationship, you both know who is the abuser and who is the victim. You both know what happened during an incident and you share a common understanding of facts. If you're talking together and one of you says "if I'm the culprit the majority of the time", it's an admission of what you both know to be true. It is not a refutation of anything.

That's why whenever Depp doesn't contradict Heard, especially in the full context, it's a tacit admission of the facts she's bringing up. That's just how relationships work. Tacit admission is admissible evidence of guilt in many cases, btw. I think if this was a normal assault case, Depp would be absolutely shredded by those pieces of audio.

 

[cerebus]

Anyway the one thing I just can't get my head around with all of this is why any of you believe Amber would lie about this? What is her possible motivation? She has records going back to 2012 of contemporaneous discussions with her therapists where she details incidences of abuse. What's her motive for lying about it from the very beginning of their relationship?

Is it money? That's obviously not true since she took a divorce settlement of 1/4th what she was entitled to then pledged it to charity. Even if you think she's lying about the charity she did donate a good chunk of it already.

Then she didn't mention anything about the abuse until she testified in the UK. Then she didn't mention it again until the op-ed, where she again didn't even directly mention Depp. So what's in it for her? Why did she convince dozens of people to lie on her behalf, and fake bruises, and phone records, and medical records? Why did she lose 2 stone by the end of the relationship and emerge looking like a shadow, all for lulz? There's no rationale that's even slightly plausible to explain it.

 

[konfab]

Anyway the one thing I just can't get my head around with all of this is why any of you believe Amber would lie about this? What is her possible motivation? She has records going back to 2012 of contemporaneous discussions with her therapists where she details incidences of abuse. What's her motive for lying about it from the very beginning of their relationship?

Is it money? That's obviously not true since she took a divorce settlement of 1/4th what she was entitled to then pledged it to charity. Even if you think she's lying about the charity she did donate a good chunk of it already.

Then she didn't mention anything about the abuse until she testified in the UK. Then she didn't mention it again until the op-ed, where she again didn't even directly mention Depp. So what's in it for her? Why did she convince dozens of people to lie on her behalf, and fake bruises, and phone records, and medical records? Why did she lose 2 stone by the end of the relationship and emerge looking like a shadow, all for lulz? There's no rationale that's even slightly plausible to explain it.

Tell the taxman that you pledge to pay your taxes.

As for Amber Heard's honesty, what got it for me was when she testified that she was raped by a bottle, and she was bleeding from the vagina. But then when she was in the bathroom, the thing she took a picture of, was the scribbling on the mirror, and then later some paintings. And she testified that she had to walk on broken glass, but no pictures of that either.

As for why she would lie? She has narcissistic personality disorder, which means if she isn't in the middle of attention, she gets absolutely miserable. This makes her a terrible person to be around, so she is used to lying about everything just to be somewhat acceptable to other people.

And then there is the little issue that she is being investigated for perjury in Ausfailia. And her employees telling the UK court that she asked them to lie on her behalf to get her out of trouble for her stupid dog. But hey, she is the most honest person in the world.

 

[cerebus]

Tell the taxman that you pledge to pay your taxes.

As for Amber Heard's honesty, what got it for me was when she testified that she was raped by a bottle, and she was bleeding from the vagina. But then when she was in the bathroom, the thing she took a picture of, was the scribbling on the mirror, and then later some paintings. And she testified that she had to walk on broken glass, but no pictures of that either.

As for why she would lie? She has narcissistic personality disorder, which means if she isn't in the middle of attention, she gets absolutely miserable. This makes her a terrible person to be around, so she is used to lying about everything just to be somewhat acceptable to other people.

So you didn't believe her because you know how rape victims should behave after a sexual assault? How paternal of you.

And then there is the little issue that she is being investigated for perjury in Ausfailia. And her employees telling the UK court that she asked them to lie on her behalf to get her out of trouble for her stupid dog. But hey, she is the most honest person in the world.

Well, speaking of tacit admissions...

https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/vqsr13

Anyway I have no idea what the dogs have to do with anything in this trial. Both Depp and Heard were implicated in it and they both appeared in that ridiculous apology video.

Btw this is quite good

 

[Splinter]

I'm not deliberately quoting anything out of context. I'm always trying to add the context to statements. I omitted one word "if" from the statement made by Depp because I didn't think it added anything materially to what he said. Tetrasect's claim that the word 'if' actually supports a view that SHE was the abuser is just comically bad.

It's a basic fact that in a relationship, you both know who is the abuser and who is the victim. You both know what happened during an incident and you share a common understanding of facts. If you're talking together and one of you says "if I'm the culprit the majority of the time", it's an admission of what you both know to be true. It is not a refutation of anything.

That's why whenever Depp doesn't contradict Heard, especially in the full context, it's a tacit admission of the facts she's bringing up. That's just how relationships work. Tacit admission is admissible evidence of guilt in many cases, btw. I think if this was a normal assault case, Depp would be absolutely shredded by those pieces of audio.

No, you are comically bad. You "trying to add the context" is just you admitting to you flavouring things with your pro-Amber, anti-Depp bias.

You keep on using the "Depp doesn't contradict" thing as the be-all and end-all. He was the abused. He kept quiet because he most likely didn't want to trigger the turd-monster.

And tacit admission requires a verbal or written statement, genius, not absolutely nothing said at all.

 

[konfab]

So you didn't believe her because you know how rape victims should behave after a sexual assault? How paternal of you.

Why don't you believe victims of domestic abuse when they say that they have had one of their fingers cut off by the person abusing them?

And unlike what Turd said happened to her, there was actual evidence of it.

 

[cerebus]

No, you are comically bad. You "trying to add the context" is just you admitting to you flavouring things with your pro-Amber, anti-Depp bias.

You keep on using the "Depp doesn't contradict" thing as the be-all and end-all. He was the abused. He kept quiet because he most likely didn't want to trigger the turd-monster.

And tacit admission requires a verbal or written statement, genius, not absolutely nothing said at all.

Except he actually did respond and didn't just keep quiet. For example he said "I made a huge mistake", twice, when she says he beat the **** out of her.

His messages apologising for the flight incident are really something btw. He claimed that he just fell asleep during the flight.

How anyone can look at that and imagine that he didn't behave like an absolute animal on the flight is beyond me. He also admitted it to Paul Bettany.

And it was further corroborated by Deuters' messages

it's also corroborated by Depp's former business managers

ffs there's so much evidence that this happened.

Why don't you believe victims of domestic abuse when they say that they have had one of their fingers cut off by the person abusing them?

And unlike what Turd said happened to her, there was actual evidence of it.

There was evidence that he had his finger cut off. There was NO evidence that she did it. Quite the contrary, he admitted multiple times to cutting off his own finger in private, and one of the witnesses disputed that it could have been damaged the way he claimed. The other witness only said that it was impossible to determine how it happened.

 

[tetrasect]

It's a basic fact that in a relationship, you both know who is the abuser and who is the victim. You both know what happened during an incident and you share a common understanding of facts. If you're talking together and one of you says "if I'm the culprit the majority of the time", it's an admission of what you both know to be true. It is not a refutation of anything.

That's why whenever Depp doesn't contradict Heard, especially in the full context, it's a tacit admission of the facts she's bringing up. That's just how relationships work. Tacit admission is admissible evidence of guilt in many cases, btw. I think if this was a normal assault case, Depp would be absolutely shredded by those pieces of audio.

I'm starting to get the feeling you have no idea how relationships work. There is no "common understanding" during an argument or else there would be no argument.

And just because someone doesn't wanna keep arguing about what happened, doesn't mean they are admitting they are wrong. This is relationship 101.

Amber: "***accusation***"

Depp: "Oh my god."

Cerebus: "I hereby pronounce you guilty, due to omission of properly worded denial sequence!!!"

 

[Splinter]

Except he actually did respond and didn't just keep quiet. For example he said "I made a huge mistake", twice, when she says he beat the **** out of her.

His messages apologising for the flight incident are really something btw. He claimed that he just fell asleep during the flight.

How anyone can look at that and imagine that he didn't behave like an absolute animal on the flight is beyond me. He also admitted it to Paul Bettany.

And it was further corroborated by Deuters' messages

it's also corroborated by Depp's former business managers

ffs there's so much evidence that this happened.



There was evidence that he had his finger cut off. There was NO evidence that she did it. Quite the contrary, he admitted multiple times to cutting off his own finger in private, and one of the witnesses disputed that it could have been damaged the way he claimed. The other witness only said that it was impossible to determine how it happened.

Please stop posting the same cow-dump shyte that has been responded to over and over.

The "I made a huge mistake" was one of the things I was referring to when I said you were making the most disingenuous out of context quotes I had ever seen. He says this after gushing how much he loves her and was obviously just saying this to patch things up.

And you are posting a bunch of hearsay stuff from a proven liar and her team.

This evidence that he cut off his own finger - where was it in the trial?

 

[tetrasect]

Please stop posting the same cow-dump shyte that has been responded to over and over.

The "I made a huge mistake" was one of the things I was referring to when I said you were making the most disingenuous out of context quotes I had ever seen. He says this after gushing how much he loves her and was obviously just saying this to patch things up.

And you are posting a bunch of hearsay stuff from a proven liar and her team.

This evidence that he cut off his own finger - where was it in the trial?

Truly amazing.

You rightly accuse him of adding his own context into their conversations and he responds by doubling down with more of his contrived context.

 

[2023]

Anyway the one thing I just can't get my head around with all of this is why any of you believe Amber would lie about this? What is her possible motivation? She has records going back to 2012 of contemporaneous discussions with her therapists where she details incidences of abuse. What's her motive for lying about it from the very beginning of their relationship?

Is it money? That's obviously not true since she took a divorce settlement of 1/4th what she was entitled to then pledged it to charity. Even if you think she's lying about the charity she did donate a good chunk of it already.

Then she didn't mention anything about the abuse until she testified in the UK. Then she didn't mention it again until the op-ed, where she again didn't even directly mention Depp. So what's in it for her? Why did she convince dozens of people to lie on her behalf, and fake bruises, and phone records, and medical records? Why did she lose 2 stone by the end of the relationship and emerge looking like a shadow, all for lulz? There's no rationale that's even slightly plausible to explain it.

Well, financial records show she didn't donate the money. So she did lie about donating the money.

We can speculate reasons for her dishonestly. Money, fame, ego, drugs, blackmail... all of the above?

Looking at her messages to him, and how she treated him in those video, she's crazy. I could speculate more - she's a crazy self serving bitch.

 

[Lucas Buck]

Great re'butt'al.. ha. But it's obviously what he says, in context.



He's just downplaying her claims that the headbutt broke her nose.

What broken nose?

 

[ToxicBunny]

Holy shyte balls... This shyte is still going on?

Damn Amber owes her white Knight the night of his life...

 

[G'Wobblez]

Except he actually did respond and didn't just keep quiet. For example he said "I made a huge mistake", twice, when she says he beat the **** out of her.

His messages apologising for the flight incident are really something btw. He claimed that he just fell asleep during the flight.

How anyone can look at that and imagine that he didn't behave like an absolute animal on the flight is beyond me. He also admitted it to Paul Bettany.

And it was further corroborated by Deuters' messages

it's also corroborated by Depp's former business managers

ffs there's so much evidence that this happened.



There was evidence that he had his finger cut off. There was NO evidence that she did it. Quite the contrary, he admitted multiple times to cutting off his own finger in private, and one of the witnesses disputed that it could have been damaged the way he claimed. The other witness only said that it was impossible to determine how it happened.

MAndel:

Why didn't he testify to it? Because he never saw any of it.


Stephan Deuters:

Johnny Depp's assistant, Stephen Deuters, tells TMZ, the texts that were posted in which he allegedly apologized to Amber Heard for Johnny's violent behavior are heavily doctored ... and he never said Johnny attacked her. Deuters says he knows of no acts of abuse toward Amber at the hands of Johnny and has never made such a claim to anyone. He adds, Johnny has never been violent toward anyone he knows.
Deuters says the texts themselves are suspicious because they don't even show a date. Bottom line ... he says he will testify under oath he never had a conversation about alleged violence with Amber.

What evidence again?
That produced by AH which she refused to have checked by a forensic team?

Paul Bettany:
Apparently referring to the flight..
And everyone on the flight including the pilot flight attendants and everyone said he didn't kick her.
She told Bettany that.

Bettany has previously expressed that it was "embarrassing" to have his texts made public when they were used in the U.K. libel case Depp brought against The Sun, which he lost in November 2020. Bettany clarified that he "didn't know Johnny when he was married to" Heard.
"I knew him before. But we hadn't spoken for years. During the marriage I didn't know them. So I wasn't around for any of that," Bettany added to U.K.'s The Times in February, after saying, "We live in a world without context."

 

[G'Wobblez]

Well the judge threw out the motions team HA laid.
Now we wait for the appeal.

 

[tetrasect]

MAndel:

Why didn't he testify to it? Because he never saw any of it.

It even says on his screenshot that the managers were "informed" of the alleged abuse, not that they witnessed it.

Paul Bettany:
Apparently referring to the flight..
And everyone on the flight including the pilot flight attendants and everyone said he didn't kick her.
She told Bettany that.

And Depp's own message to him states that he was "screaming obscenities", not assaulting Heard.

This so called evidence is beyond weak. It's pathetic.

 

[cerebus]

MAndel:

Why didn't he testify to it? Because he never saw any of it.


Stephan Deuters:

Really strange then that under oath in the UK trial he admitted they were genuine

1. The Claimant said that he had instructed Mr Deuters to try to placate Ms Heard which, Mr Deuters said, explained the series of texts he sent to Ms Heard starting at 15.45 on 25th May 2014. These said (see file 6/119/F697.29 The time was 13.19 according to the copy at 7/1/H13)),
2. 
   

   'Hey. He's up. He's much better. Clearer. He doesn't remember much, but we took him thru all that happened. He's sorry. Very sorry. And just wants to get better. Which allows us to make him follow up on that promise. ... He's teary. He doesn't want to be a ****-up any more – his words. He's got bad indigestion this morning but otherwise alright. He's gone back to sleep for a bit.'

3. Then a little later at 17.25 (or 10.25),
4. 
   

   'There feels like a sea change in him this morning. He just spoke about how bad he feels and he wasn't talking physically ... He's incredibly apologetic and knows that he has done wrong. He wants to get better now. He's been very explicit about that this morning ... Feel like we're at a critical juncture.'

5. At 20.47 (or 13.47) Ms Heard texted Mr Deuters,
6. 
   

   'Obviously he has no idea what he did or to the extent that he did it. If someone was truly honest with him about how bad it really was, he'd be appalled. The man johnny is would be humiliated. And definitely wouldn't say to me that he doesn't deserve it. I'm sad he doesn't have a better way to really know the severity of his actions yesterday. Unfortunately for me, I remember in full detail everything that happened.'

7. A few seconds later Mr Deuters responded,
8. 
   

   'He was appalled. When I told him he kicked you, he cried ... It was disgusting. And he knows it.'

9. Again, Mr Deuters said that he was saying to Ms Heard what he thought she wanted to hear. He had done what the Claimant instructed him to do: try to placate Ms Heard.

It's almost as if he lies when he isn't under oath, because he's still employed by Depp. Just like all Depp's sycophants like the employees on the plane who claim to see nothing despite piles of evidence and recordings. Funny that. The texts are also verified authentic by experts.

https://www.marieclaire.com.au/amber-heard-text-messages-johnny-depp-assistant-are-authentic-claims-tech-expert

What evidence again?
That produced by AH which she refused to have checked by a forensic team?

What did AH refuse to have checked by forensics? Show me.

Paul Bettany:
Apparently referring to the flight..
And everyone on the flight including the pilot flight attendants and everyone said he didn't kick her.
She told Bettany that.

Bettany has previously expressed that it was "embarrassing" to have his texts made public when they were used in the U.K. libel case Depp brought against The Sun, which he lost in November 2020. Bettany clarified that he "didn't know Johnny when he was married to" Heard.
"I knew him before. But we hadn't spoken for years. During the marriage I didn't know them. So I wasn't around for any of that," Bettany added to U.K.'s The Times in February, after saying, "We live in a world without context."

So odd that he didn't know them while they were married but his verified series of messages with Depp were contemporaneous with the events. Seems like someone doesn't want to be put under the spotlight very much and I don't blame him. Again from the UK trial:

1. His mother had been taking 'nerve pills' and on one occasion he had taken one. He found that it calmed his pain. He accepted that he had had a history of using or over-using alcohol and controlled drugs which included cocaine, ecstasy (MDMA), magic mushrooms and cannabis as well as certain prescribed drugs (notably Oxycodone, Roxicodone or Roxies). He much admired some of those who had extolled the virtues of psychedelic drugs of whom Hunter S. Thompson was one. Keith Richards and the musician Marilyn Manson were others with whom he was close friends. Another friend with whom he shared an interest in drugs was Paul Bettany. They dabbled in cocaine, alcohol, Xanax and Adderall together. One of the Claimant's doctors was Dr Kipper. In an email to the Claimant's sister, Christi Dembrowski, of 18th August 2014, Dr Kipper said of the Claimant (file 4/126/F745) he
2. 
   

   'actually romanticizes the entire drug culture and has no accountability for his behaviours.'

 

[konfab]

What broken nose?

"We don't need to address that. The UK judge said it didn't matter that Amber Heard is a liar. Therefore it is so"