Expiring data - the other side of the story

Bradley Prior

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Expiring data - the other side of the story

Expiring data is a hot topic in South Africa, with politicians, the regulator, and the public calling on mobile operators to offer data bundles which do not expire.

The argument is that consumers have paid for a certain amount of data and that they should not lose this data because it “expired”.
 

Gudnews

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Price, Price, Price, Price. Telkom's Mo Bundles expire quite quickly at times but you don't hear me complaining because of the their price.
 

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Imagine if the seats on an aeroplane were the same as bandwidth, if the same logic applied as to data then we'd have riots when boarding.
 

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They all (network providers) seem to blame it on the upstream providers (as they all have been for the past few years). Would it not be fair to hear what the actual upstream providers had to say about this? Secondly how does it make any sense when they say the data bundles help them provision better for data purchase? Surely if you buy a long term bundle they have a BETTER more ACURATE idea of how much data is needed, vs the sporadic / "use data when it is needed" bundles? If half the population were to buy a daily bundle for the same day how would they be able to cope with that? I agree that providing the services cost money and it is a business but I would honestly prefer if they were honest instead of this kind of dishonesty. Very unethical.
 

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So they can do all these complicated predictions of how much bandwidth they will need 18 months in advance, but they cannot make a simple prediction of how much bandwidth people will roll-over. Sure.
 

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Imagine if the seats on an aeroplane were the same as bandwidth, if the same logic applied as to data then we'd have riots when boarding.
Maybe you should re-think this example. If you purchase an aeroplane ticket, you purchase it for a specific flight. This means it must be used for that flight only, and expires after that flight. It is much stricter than data, which provides you with a time frame.

Can you purchase an airline ticket where you can use it whenever you want, and where it never expires? If not, why not?
 

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Cool story bro. Cheaper data ironically lasts longer.
Can you give examples of this? Hence, where data which lasts longer is cheaper than data which expires sooner (for the same amount, of course)?
 

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MTN:
As a result, the price of data would need to increase because the cheaper bundles with shorter validity would effectively become redundant.
Vodacom:
The company said if data did not expire, it will send data prices up and will substantially limit customer choice
and you assume the South African consumer would happily pay that inflated data prices?
 

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This whole article including the explanations from both Vodacom and MTN are geared towards their respective companies and profit margins, fsck the consumer!

Thats why we all know its BULLSHIT!
 

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The consumer does not want the Data to expire , just give the consumer what they want ! .
How difficult is that ?
 

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Maybe you should re-think this example. If you purchase an aeroplane ticket, you purchase it for a specific flight. This means it must be used for that flight only, and expires after that flight. It is much stricter than data, which provides you with a time frame.

Can you purchase an airline ticket where you can use it whenever you want, and where it never expires? If not, why not?
That sir is an interesting point to start of with. Yes, it's for the same flight, but if know you are going to miss your flight you have the option to reschedule.
And you don't have the situation where another airline resells the first airlines tickets at lower rates while still being profitable (afrihost resells MTN).

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Also, this is not something you can compare with analogies and say "x" expires so you should expect the same from "y". Different things have different use by dates. Milk last's for 3 days, cereal for weeks, biltong for months, cars for years, houses for decades. Your Internet shouldn't expire because they don't pay per megabyte, they rent out cables that have a set bandwidth.
 
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Imagine if the seats on an aeroplane were the same as bandwidth, if the same logic applied as to data then we'd have riots when boarding.
But its the same you pay for access to that plane for how ever long your flight is so technically access to it expires. You can't use that same ticket once your allocation is done.
 
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