F1 - 2018 season discussion

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caroper said:
We don't hate Vettel, we just hate people who dislike Hamilton :unsure::cautious::sneaky:
Joking aside I think most of us are here because we enjoy F1, taking sides will happen in any sport, but the banter here is generally light hearted and not hate driven.
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We also enjoy seeing the tears of the Vettalistas ;)
 
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caroper said:
We don't hate Vettel, we just hate people who dislike Hamilton :unsure::cautious::sneaky:
Joking aside I think most of us are here because we enjoy F1, taking sides will happen in any sport, but the banter here is generally light hearted and not hate driven.
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Fair enough... I get the pressure is getting to most, and currently advantage Hamilton so well done to him.

I just feel that to much emphyses is put on Vettel for all his "mistakes", the only real ones coming to mind is Germany and the one he knocked Bottas with, and within that we all know how many hits Bottas had with many drivers, but will not go there.

All the others I felt is not "mistakes" caused by pressure or panic, just racing incidents? That is the way he has driven all his life and was under loads of pressure before as well. Most tend to forget how Hamilton is if things don't go his way or the many errors he has made.... but alas, ifs and buts in the past is not what is true now, so a good battle to come still....

All that being said, yes I root for finger boy... but also think it is Hamilton's to loose. Seb as far as i can remember do not have good memories in Russia, holding thumbs obviously. :giggle:;)

If Seb can win Sochi, I believe he can win all the remaining five.... This will probably show to me anyways in which state of mind he is.
 
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I think most of the "mistakes" people are talking about are actually team rather than driver related.
Ferrari have made some really bad strategy calls and Seb gets the blame.
We do like to mock his driving in the rain but in reality he had one spin in the wet and we won't let the Ferrari fans live it down, but that is just an in joke in this forum, not a serious criticism of Seb.
I like that they are pushing each other and hope that it goes down to the wire.

May the Best Team win, the drivers are just the figure heads.
 
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Naks said:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/wehrlein-poised-for-return-with-toro-rosso/

Pity, Hartley was starting to show some results.
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Its clear that Toro Rosso are not exactly a Red Bull junior team at this point now. They're the Honda test-bed so looks like Red Bull is going for some experience instead of youth to help development.

Surprised they haven't considered Ocon as Mercedes have said they wouldn't oppose a move to a team powered by a rival manufacturer.

Asked ahead of the Hungarian Grand Prix whether Mercedes would be open to letting Ocon drive an F1 car not powered by its engine, Wolff said the manufacturer "wouldn't want to stand in the way".

"We picked Esteban up when Gravity fell apart and the first time he was actually associated with was Renault," Mercedes F1 boss Wolff recalled. "We at the time had just started our junior programme and it felt right to put Pascal [Wehrlein] and Esteban to give them a go.

"Today we are trying to set them a path that will make them very successful long-term, to put them in a position to be world champions maybe one day.

"With Valtteri and Lewis we have a line-up that is stable, that works for us, and at this stage there is no opportunity within Mercedes.

"If he has the opportunity somewhere else to be successful as a racing driver, and another team or another constructors to be successful with Esteban, we wouldn't want to stand in the way."
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ocon-force-india-renault-2019-mercedes-wolff-1064562/3148684/

Unless of course rival manufacturers wouldn't be keen on a legitimately talented driver spending time with them and then sending information back to Mercedes. Perhaps Ocon's management team should consider cutting ties with Mercedes and testing the market themselves?
 
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Honda to surpass Renault power in Russia?

Honda are reportedly ready to roll out a significant engine upgrade in Russia which would produce more power than Renault.

According to analysis from Auto Motor und Sport, based on the latest GPS data, the current Honda engine produces 715 horsepower which is 15 fewer than what the Renault power unit can generate.

The Japanese engine manufacturer had pinpointed the United States Grand Prix in October to unveil their new Spec-3 engine – but Dutch outlet Ziggo Sport believe they could be in a position to introduce the new power unit two races earlier than planned.

Auto Motor und Sport reckon Honda’s upgraded engine would boost them to 750HP and take them 35HP ahead of Renault.

The report claims Ferrari have the most powerful engine with 790HP, with Mercedes operating at 780HP.

If Russia is the place for Toro Rosso to fit a new, upgraded power unit, then Pierre Gasly and Brendon Hartleywill be hit with engine penalties after already surpassing their use of power unit elements for the 2018 season before penalties are introduced.
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Red Bull jumping ship at the right moment?
 
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F1 announces $100m in-race betting deal

A press release issued today declared that F1 has agreed a partnership with Interregional Sports Group (ISG) and Sportradar to enable live betting during races.
Under the terms of the deal, thought to be worth $100m, ‘ISG will have the rights to sub-license betting partnership rights, subject to regulations'.
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Welcom to the era of race fixing as we follow in the footsteps of Soccer and Cricket.............
 
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satanboy said:
How is this different from the current online betting?
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Current betting closes before lights out, with the new system odds will be dynamic, changing as the race progresses.
so like soccer where you can make in match changes or bet on a corner etc, F1 will have betting on pitstop times etc...
 
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