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I also like the idea( I think I read it here) of cutting the telemetry and team radio coddling and only a pit board for comms.

F1 is about the tech though. It's all about optimum performance and optimising everything (they're saving 10g on underpants ffs).

And that's the problem: optimum performance over extended periods of time comes down to consistency and consistency is boring.

We need more stuff that can go wrong: fuel, rain season circuits, less rules but equal budget on consumables like tyres.

We need something that can go catastrophically wrong :p
 

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F1 is about the tech though. It's all about optimum performance and optimising everything (they're saving 10g on underpants ffs).

And that's the problem: optimum performance over extended periods of time comes down to consistency and consistency is boring.

We need more stuff that can go wrong: fuel, rain season circuits, less rules but equal budget on consumables like tyres.

We need something that can go catastrophically wrong :p
Back in the day, I enjoyed seeing engines blow up, cars stopping just before the finish line, because they ran out of fuel.
 

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Back in the day, I enjoyed seeing engines blow up, cars stopping just before the finish line, because they ran out of fuel.

Yes exactly that, I am not saying lets go back to the 60's, but if some of the tech gets limited some of the teams with shallower pockets might have a better chance perhaps?
Refueling, slows down pitstops and gets an extra dimension to strategy back, let the teams choose their tyres from different manufacturers( with design rules of course), or perhaps a system of being forced to use all of them( the different manufacturers) in a season different for each race?
Increase the DRS time difference?

:)Get the Merc mechanics at Ferrari ?
 

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And get rid of the parking areas that they call runoffs and put the gravel traps back. If you leave the track it should hurt, not necessarily physically, but it should damage the car or tiers to discourage running wide or taking chances.
 

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There's talk of Barcelona getting the boot as a round of the championship and I wouldn't be too disappointed to see it go. It's such a dull track

It is not that the track is dull, it is the fact that it has been the main testing track for years. Teams and drivers have maximised every inch of it. The drivers can probably draw its layout with their eyes closed. There are no unknowns heading there.
 

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Zandvoort is a worse of a track. Its basically one straight and a squiggly bit in between.
 

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Zandvoort is a worse of a track. Its basically one straight and a squiggly bit in between.

Yep, very narrow and squiggly track.

All about business though. They obviously want a Dutch GP because of Max.
 

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Watched the IndyCar highlights at Indy GP this morning and it looked 10 times better than the Spanish GP and there were 2 cars on fire in the pits and a loose tyre in the pitlane coupled with rain.

F1 will get slaughtered with the Monaco GP and Indy 500 taking place the same day.
 

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Is @LukeSmithF1 not aware that No other team has ever scored 5 consecutive 1-2 finishes in the 79 years that the Formula one Championship has been contested. The fact that he mentions only 12% of that period and in the same context as Ferrari makes no doubt as to where his bias is. So despite his implication that it has taken Mercedes 10 years to match Ferrari, on the contrary Mercedes have set a Record that Ferrari have not been able to achieve in the past 79 years.

Alternatively one could say that it took Ferrari 69 years to set the record for consecutive 1-2 finishes and less than a decade for Mercedes to Break it.
 
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Brilliantly summed up by @MBrundleF1: "Unsurprisingly people are motivated and excited by people, not clutch algorithms."

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/2...spanish-gp-frustrations-and-f1-future-visions

And a sign of more same-same:

And I'm frustrated with Formula 1 and the FIA because the 2021 regulations offer the opportunity for a root and branch change that the sport needs and, from various conversations I had in Spain, I don't sense it's going to happen.

Teams are involved in the process too, and they shouldn't be because they are competitively hard-wired to think only of their own success, and not the good of the sport.

I sense significant compromise coming, with little changing in terms overall competitiveness through the field, and nothing to attract new teams and manufacturers which is critical to the health and future of F1, just as it was in the past. We are on a heavily-moated island, drawbridge raised, and more importantly few waiting for the drawbridge to be lowered.
 

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Is @LukeSmithF1 not aware that No other team has ever scored 5 consecutive 1-2 finishes in the 79 years that the Formula one Championship has been contested. The fact that he mentions only 12% of that period and in the same context as Ferrari makes no doubt as to where his bias is. So despite his implication that it has taken Mercedes 10 years to match Ferrari, on the contrary Mercedes have set a Record that Ferrari have not been able to achieve in the past 79 years.

Alternatively one could say that it took Ferrari 69 years to set the record for consecutive 1-2 finishes and less than a decade for Mercedes to Break it.

I hate this, so what if he is biased? That makes it interesting, think of how you would feel when he has to comment on them losing to your team, you would enjoy that much more than if he was neutral
 

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https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/live-text/liveblog-formule-1-keert-terug-naar-nederland/4047/

Later today - the press conference starts in just over an hour - it is announced that the Grand Prix of the Netherlands will certainly be on the Formula 1 calendar up to and including 2022. They have signed a three-year deal with an option for a two-year extension. With that, the Dutch Grand Prix could be on the calendar up to and including 2024.

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https://nl.motorsport.com/f1/live-text/liveblog-formule-1-keert-terug-naar-nederland/4047/

Later today - the press conference starts in just over an hour - it is announced that the Grand Prix of the Netherlands will certainly be on the Formula 1 calendar up to and including 2022. They have signed a three-year deal with an option for a two-year extension. With that, the Dutch Grand Prix could be on the calendar up to and including 2024.

D6gr2_AWAAASC0j.jpg

Imagine that, a Grand Prix where the only consumable fluid for everyone that whole weekend was Heineken, now that would be good to watch.
 
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