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Willie Trombone

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The Hulkenator.
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Pity he was only driving the Merc 1.0.
 

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Alonso says ‘it’s like a new beginning’ as he gets first taste of 2020 Renault in Barcelona test: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...e-of-2020-renault.7f9tTX9yyqCVfCtEbwxgcG.html

"... With the team feeling a Free Practice 1 outing wouldn’t be of much use, they have instead opted to use their second filming day, which allows for 100km of running of the current car on promotional Pirelli tyres, to run the Spaniard.

The test comes 20 years after his first F1 test with Benetton – a team which Renault have their roots in – at the same circuit. ..."
 

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I would rather see truck loads of gravel being spread to replace the "Over" Generous Asphalt Run Off zones.
Yes please.
Vettel showed how skill can save you in the last race. Not many would have managed what he did after that spin. He's had practice.
 

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article is in Italian, translation via Google:

"Ferrari crisis does not stop talking not only to fans, but also to many of the experts within motorsport. This is the case of Alberto Sabbatini, sports journalist former director of Autosprint and Auto, who gave his opinion to PitTalk n.240 . And from his point of view also an unprecedented element emerges ... Episode 240 of PitTalk, in which Alberto Sabbatini , former director of Autosprint and Auto , is a guest . One of the voices that have described over the years Ferrari's failures and triumphs in F1 expresses its opinion on the “Ferrari case”.

From the statements of the well-known journalist, a scenario emerges that until now had never emerged so clearly and which, if confirmed, would add fuel to the already high fire of Maranello's troubles.

The Ferrari of the 2020 crisis is heavily affected by infighting which could only be supposed to exist. In particular, between two of the leading exponents of the Modenese technical staff: Mattia Binotto and the F1 project leader Simone Resta.

"Ferrari would need a man of weight from abroad, because there are complicated situations in Maranello." declared Sabbatini “It is said that there is friction between Binotto and Simone Resta who is the chief designer. Those internal cracks that we saw many years ago several times have been recreated in Ferrari. With the difference that once they were created even when things were going well, while now they are created when the results are scarce ".

The one painted by Sabbatini in PitTalk is a decidedly alarming picture of the situation. In addition to the manifest inability in the competitive field, of the top leaders of the Prancing Horse, which has been dealt with several times , we would be faced with an organizational chaos worthy of the worst amateurism.

A chaos, which puts the defensive interests of someone who for many F1 GPs up to this point before the team's interest reminds us that “… we need to evaluate the data…” or that “… we have to understand…” . Yes but what ???

Perhaps Simone Resta's experience has highlighted some problems , as well as in the design of the SF1000, also in the management of the good Binotto as team principal? In the perspective of the crisis, Ferrari Sabbatini also renews one of the most recurring doubts of F1 insiders. It is a point of view that Pino Allievi, Enrique Scalabroni and many others have already clarified in their statements both to our microphones and to various sports media.

"I do not understand why in January, after being punished by the FIA, when it was imposed to remove the system that gave more power, Ferrari did not use its political weight to have the possibility to develop the engine" declared the journalist " Why didn't they use this political weight or any other weapon to deal with that situation? Todt or Montezemolo would never have allowed it using their charisma, coat of arms and political weight to recover part of the penalization suffered.

Why not in this case?

I can only imagine that they have managed to move the budget cap higher . Setting it at 145 million instead of the 100 it was thought to be. Perhaps also thinking of being able to quickly recover the gap. "

We are faced with a mountain of questions and assumptions. A mountain that, even to those who are accustomed to the "F1 button rooms", appears as huge as Everest and as insurmountable as Nanga Parbat. A mountain that would require capable climbers of great feats, and not Sunday mountaineers (even if of Swiss origin…) more suited to trekking paths than to the heights of the Himalayan peaks !!!"
 

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I would rather see truck loads of gravel being spread to replace the "Over" Generous Asphalt Run Off zones.
Yes please, make a mistake and its race over. Mugello was wonderful with the Gravel. Turn two and three drivers was in the gravel, no way out.
 

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^Pretty sure that was Grosjean's face for the whole race after he hurt his finger.
 

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Here you go
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So that should really answer the questions of who is the best, who is the most successful, most consistent.

Hamilton has two years on Schumacher and racing a lot more, he'll more than break all the records should he continue.

He's also better at qualifying although qualifying changed I think. Regardless, he is consistent AF across the board.

Schumacher on the other hand has a higher win to race ratio so to his pole to win ratio. 91 wins started on pole only 68 times vs Hamilton's 96 poles for 91 wins. One can argue it's easier to win when you start in front but there are so many differences in in rules/regulations (refueling, same tyres, shittier tyres, mandatory pit stops etc).

To me it's obvious Schumacher is the more "ultimate" racing driver between the two.

But Alonso is still the best so whatever.
 

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So that should really answer the questions of who is the best, who is the most successful, most consistent.

Hamilton has two years on Schumacher and racing a lot more, he'll more than break all the records should he continue.

He's also better at qualifying although qualifying changed I think. Regardless, he is consistent AF across the board.

Schumacher on the other hand has a higher win to race ratio so to his pole to win ratio. 91 wins started on pole only 68 times vs Hamilton's 96 poles for 91 wins. One can argue it's easier to win when you start in front but there are so many differences in in rules/regulations (refueling, same tyres, shittier tyres, mandatory pit stops etc).

To me it's obvious Schumacher is the more "ultimate" racing driver between the two.

But Alonso is still the best so whatever.


Hamster has done really well, hasn't he?
 

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So that should really answer the questions of who is the best, who is the most successful, most consistent.

Hamilton has two years on Schumacher and racing a lot more, he'll more than break all the records should he continue.

He's also better at qualifying although qualifying changed I think. Regardless, he is consistent AF across the board.

Schumacher on the other hand has a higher win to race ratio so to his pole to win ratio. 91 wins started on pole only 68 times vs Hamilton's 96 poles for 91 wins. One can argue it's easier to win when you start in front but there are so many differences in in rules/regulations (refueling, same tyres, shittier tyres, mandatory pit stops etc).

To me it's obvious Schumacher is the more "ultimate" racing driver between the two.

But Alonso is still the best so whatever.

I agree with your assessment, Schumacher is definitely the best driver. Hamilton is right up there and you have to give credit to Alonso, no other has-been generates as much buzz, besides Schumacher of course. Even comatose he beats Alonso, he’s just that much better.
 

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So that should really answer the questions of who is the best, who is the most successful, most consistent.

Hamilton has two years on Schumacher and racing a lot more, he'll more than break all the records should he continue.

He's also better at qualifying although qualifying changed I think. Regardless, he is consistent AF across the board.

Schumacher on the other hand has a higher win to race ratio so to his pole to win ratio. 91 wins started on pole only 68 times vs Hamilton's 96 poles for 91 wins. One can argue it's easier to win when you start in front but there are so many differences in in rules/regulations (refueling, same tyres, shittier tyres, mandatory pit stops etc).

To me it's obvious Schumacher is the more "ultimate" racing driver between the two.

But Alonso is still the best so whatever.

The stat that really stands out for Michael are the fastest laps.

Michael had a reputation for running qualifying laps during races to make Brawn's aggressive strategies work. The Ferrari wasn't always the best at qualifying and on many occasions was out qualified by a Williams or McLaren, placing emphasis on race pace to beat them.
 
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