F1 2020 season discussion and chat.

Daruk

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Do people really think Schumacher joined Mercedes in his prime? Prime Michael in a Mercedes would wipe the floor with Hamilton.
So he just faded towards the end then?
He was thoroughly beaten by Rosberg in Mercedes stints. Then Hamilton shows up and beats Rosberg in all but one season. And miraculously the Merc goes from being an average car to a winning car in every season but his first.
 

Christo4

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The "prime" ended 2006. He retired that year when Alonso won. He returned 2010 as a no.2 driver.
 

Daruk

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Ok, you're off the hook..
And it was that same 2x WC that Hamilton narrowly missed beating in his rookie season in identical hardware. Probably the closest season we have seen in our generation.
Not sure who MS has teamed up with who could be considered significant.
 

Christo4

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So he just faded towards the end then?
He was thoroughly beaten by Rosberg in Mercedes stints. Then Hamilton shows up and beats Rosberg in all but one season. And miraculously the Merc goes from being an average car to a winning car in every season but his first.
No, Vettel - 2010 to 2013 - only then the Merc made it's name.
 

thestaggy

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Right... ergo he was beaten twice by Alonso while in his prime. 2006 and 2005.
2005 doesn't really count as that Ferrari was nowhere near the Renault or McLaren. In Barrichello's hands it wasn't even the best midfield car. You wouldn't say Michael beat Alonso in 2003 and 2004 when Alonso wasn't in a championship=-aliber car.

That's like beating Usain Bolt who's running with a sprained ankle.

2006 was the fair-and-square shoot out. Both had two retirements; both had 7 wins. Alonso edged him on top-5 consistency.
 
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Daruk

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2005 doesn't really count as that Ferrari was nowhere near the Renault or McLaren. In Barrichello's hands it wasn't even the best midfield car. You wouldn't say Michael beat Alonso in 2003 and 2004 when Alonso wasn't in a championship=-aliber car.

That's like beating Usain Bolt who's running with a sprained ankle.

2006 was the fair-and-square shoot out. Both had two retirements; both had 7 wins. Alonso edged him on top-5 consistency.
Ah yes, just rebutting Christo "The car maketh Hamilton, but Michael is self made"

I agree.
I quote - "A six-time Formula One World Champion, he is widely regarded as one of the greatest drivers in the history of the sport, and considered by some to be the greatest of all time" - Wikipedia
The car maketh the man.
 

Agent_Smith

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Quite an amusing vid of how the graphics and overlay of F1 has changed over the years. Last year's British GP with old to new on screen displays.

 

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Vettel’s Ferrari exit cost Formula 1 ‘$90m’: https://www.planetf1.com/news/sebastian-vettel-f1-shares

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Confirmation that Sebastian Vettel is leaving Ferrari at the end of this season has cost Formula 1 $90 million.

Bought by Liberty Media in late 2016, the company decided to float Formula 1 on the stock exchange.

That left the sport vulnerable to fluctuations in the market with the shares taking a massive hit in March when the season did not begin, and falling even further in April as the hiatus and the world’s financial crisis continued.

But it seems that is not all that affects the ‘FWONK’ share prices.

Driver changes also have an impact.

On Tuesday Ferrari confirmed that Vettel would be leaving the team at the end of this season after the two parties realised they no longer had a “common desire” to continue working together.

According to FormulaMoney, who ‘specialise in covering the business of F1’, F1’s share price dropped 4.5%.

48 hours later Ferrari announced that Carlos Sainz would replace Vettel at the end of the year, signing a two-year deal to partner Charles Leclerc.

The share price rose 3.1%.

However, that was a massive $90m loss for Formula 1. ..."

 

Daruk

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Vettel’s Ferrari exit cost Formula 1 ‘$90m’: https://www.planetf1.com/news/sebastian-vettel-f1-shares

"
Confirmation that Sebastian Vettel is leaving Ferrari at the end of this season has cost Formula 1 $90 million.

Bought by Liberty Media in late 2016, the company decided to float Formula 1 on the stock exchange.

That left the sport vulnerable to fluctuations in the market with the shares taking a massive hit in March when the season did not begin, and falling even further in April as the hiatus and the world’s financial crisis continued.

But it seems that is not all that affects the ‘FWONK’ share prices.

Driver changes also have an impact.

On Tuesday Ferrari confirmed that Vettel would be leaving the team at the end of this season after the two parties realised they no longer had a “common desire” to continue working together.

According to FormulaMoney, who ‘specialise in covering the business of F1’, F1’s share price dropped 4.5%.

48 hours later Ferrari announced that Carlos Sainz would replace Vettel at the end of the year, signing a two-year deal to partner Charles Leclerc.

The share price rose 3.1%.

However, that was a massive $90m loss for Formula 1. ..."

Given that he earns $40 mil, that will come back quickly LOL.
 
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