F1 2020 season discussion and chat.

Christo4

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Silly = having or showing a lack of common sense or judgement; absurd and foolish.

A big call you are making when Toto, etc are all "throwing" it out there.
 

cr@zydude

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I really wonder if there will be some meddling from Liberty to get Vettel in with Hamilton, if they are to continue to dominate at least it will make good viewing when the top 2 are challenging/bumping into each other at the front. The exposure for sponsors will be a good pay-off and at the end of the day it's as much about the spectacle as it is about the racing.
I'm sure that Liberty will love it. I wasn't around to watch Senna and Prost at Mclaren but Alonso and Hamilton at Mclaren and Hamilton and Rosberg at Mercedes was entertaining.
 

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Daimler-Benz are already rumoured to be excited by the marketing potential of having Vettel, but there is pushback from both Wolff and Hamilton.
 

thestaggy

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Did Ricciardo bail on a sinking ship?

Renault set to cut costs by €2bn, will their F1 team escape the chopping block?

French car manufacturer Renault is soon to announce that it is being forced to cut costs by €2 billion in response to a drop in demand due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The automotive sector has been hit hard by lockdown measures with sales of new cars in Europe – Renault’s biggest market – dropping 40 per cent in the opening quarter of 2020, whilst April has seen a sharp decline of almost 80 per cent.

A board meeting has been scheduled in which it’s expected Renault – which is part-government owned – will announce major cut backs with reports it will close up to four factories across France, including its newly upgraded Dieppe Plant which produces the A110, a model in the relaunched Alpine range which has failed to meet expectations.

It’s also expected the Renault model range will be cut back dramatically to its main core – those which drive sales.

Of course this raises several other questions, most notably the future of its Formula 1 team.
The 2008-2009 global recession killed off BMW, Honda and Toyota involvement in the sport.
 

gam3jaxx

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Well F1 is owned by a media company and pairing him with Hamilton in a champion winning car as hinted with Daimler Chrysler putting pressure on him will make the best viewing in F1 in a very long time, drama, wheel to wheel for the first time etc etc. F1 stocks took a decent amount off the bottom line, imagine what will happen with Seb being signed into Merc.

But one must also put some logic into the mix, if Vettel didn't have options would he really not have taken a cut in salary / contract at Ferrari?

This could just be a brilliant marketing strategy for F1 that has also taken a knock due to Covid.

Even if your are a Lewis Hamilton fan, wouldn't it be great for them to put it all on the line with no "mechanical" issues to blame?

What would also be interesting is how the garage deals with this, so they actually put equal attention on both cars rather than having a 1/2 driver?
 

cr@zydude

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Well F1 is owned by a media company and pairing him with Hamilton in a champion winning car as hinted with Daimler Chrysler putting pressure on him will make the best viewing in F1 in a very long time, drama, wheel to wheel for the first time etc etc. F1 stocks took a decent amount off the bottom line, imagine what will happen with Seb being signed into Merc.

But one must also put some logic into the mix, if Vettel didn't have options would he really not have taken a cut in salary / contract at Ferrari?

This could just be a brilliant marketing strategy for F1 that has also taken a knock due to Covid.

Even if your are a Lewis Hamilton fan, wouldn't it be great for them to put it all on the line with no "mechanical" issues to blame?

What would also be interesting is how the garage deals with this, so they actually put equal attention on both cars rather than having a 1/2 driver?
It would be interesting to watch. By the way, Chrysler hasn't been linked with Daimler for a long time. Chrysler is part of Fiat Chrysler these days.
 

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Would Michael Schumacher have won an eighth WDC if he stayed for two more seasons and thus had the car which Hamilton is driving currently?
 

Fox1

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Would Michael Schumacher have won an eighth WDC if he stayed for two more seasons and thus had the car which Hamilton is driving currently?
Apparently no. The new hybrid cars are very different to the cars Schumacher used to drive. Schumacher always had a car built around his strength. He eventually left Ferrari and Mercedes for the same reason Brawn left those teams, they couldn't push the development curve any further. Vettel even mentioned the new cars are a lot more heavier and the tyres need to be "massaged" until the end.
 

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The only reason I can see Vettel being taken on by Mercedes is to cover themselves for an impending Hamilton retirement when the rules change or are they expecting a Le Clerc and Verstappen onslaught?

Though, would Vettel be better off at Racing Point India because I see a conflict of interest between Toto, Racing Point and Mercedes.
 

newjourno

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The only reason I can see Vettel being taken on by Mercedes is to cover themselves for an impending Hamilton retirement when the rules change or are they expecting a Le Clerc and Verstappen onslaught?

Though, would Vettel be better off at Racing Point India because I see a conflict of interest between Toto, Racing Point and Mercedes.
Do you think Racing Point India could be the next superpower in the sport?
 

Fox1

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Yes. I believe Toto will join them eventually or it will become a conflict of interest with him, Aston Martin and RP. Mercedes still haven't committed to 2021 or have they?
 

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Daniel Ricciardo McLaren contract, driver’s contract value revealed: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...d/news-story/e1f98841354839f971aabdea32a542e5

... The report claims Ricciardo was set to earn a stunning 25 million euros ($41.5m) with Renault during the 2020 Formula 1 season before the Aussie accepted a pay cut during the coronavirus-enforced season lock down.

Now Limacher claims Ricciardo’s deal with McLaren is worth $17 million per-year (10 million euros per year) — less than half his current deal. The 15 million euro per-year pay cut would represent a 60 per cent dive.

However, the fine print in the contract reportedly includes a series of juicy bonuses for the Aussie, including:
— Ricciardo has been guaranteed status as the team’s No. 1 driver
— Ricciardo’s contract is for two years with an option in his favour for a one-year extension through to the end of the 2023 season; and
— Ricciardo can unlock a series of bonus payments reportedly ranging from 400,000 euros every time he collects championship points to 1 million euros for each grand prix victory. ...
 
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