F1 2020 season discussion and chat.

UrBaN963

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It's an interesting thing to put in a contract. It obligates the team into certain things, but also puts a lot of pressure on the driver to perform. Poor performance could potentially constitute breach of contract and open the doorway for Lando to be given equal opportunity, much like the Ferrari saga.
 

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Would Michael Schumacher have won an eighth WDC if he stayed for two more seasons and thus had the car which Hamilton is driving currently?
No.

Michael that returned in 2010 was not the same Michael that retired in 2006. 4-years away from the sport and possible lasting effects of a serious neck injury sustained riding a motorcyle.

Had he not retired in 2006, he more than likely wins the 2007 and/or 2008 championships though.
 

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FIA approve reduced 2021 F1 cost cap and new sliding scale rules for aero testing: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ale-rules-for-aero.7Hkn5yOebeUXnCes3v22L.html

"The FIA has approved a new, reduced cost cap for F1 teams and a new sliding scale rule for aerodynamic testing after a vote of the World Motor Sport Council on Wednesday.

A cost cap had already been agreed by the teams and the sport's governing body, but after Wednesday's vote the cap for 2021 will be lowered from the original figure of $175m per year to $145m, with further reductions in the following years.

The new, reduced cap has been brought in as a response to the coronvirus pandemic that has delayed the start of the 2020 F1 season, which has in turn had a serious effect on the finances of the teams.

The other big announcement from Wednesday's vote concerns a brand new sliding scale for aerodynamic development, which is also set to be brought in for 2021.

Under the agreement, the lower a team finishes in the constructors' championship, the more wind tunnel time it will be allowed to use to develop the car the following year.

It is hoped the move will allow the field to close up and prevent the bigger teams from gaining too much of an advantage over those with less resources.

The FIA has also approved a measure to limit downforce on the 2021 cars. With key parts of the cars – such as the chassis and suspension – staying fixed from 2020 to 2021 the new rule means teams will have to trim part of the floor to reduce the downforce created, largely so a new tyre compound will not be needed for next season, before a switch to 18 inch tyres in 2022. Click here for more details.

There were also a number of other tweaks in the pursuit of cutting costs and promoting sustainability. These include:
  • A number of components including the chassis and gearbox have been frozen between 2020 and 2021. A token system will be used to allow a very limited number of modifications, such as McLaren needing to make changes to accomodate a switch to Mercedes power.
  • From next season, there will be a limitation on the number of upgrades a power unit manufacturer can do over the course of a season.
  • For 2021, the minimum weight increases 3kg to 749kg.
  • Provisions can be made for "open" and "closed" events in 2020, in response to the coronavirus pandemic which makes holding mass gatherings challenging."
 

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Toto Wolff Stepping Down as Team Principal of Mercedes F1: https://www.essentiallysports.com/f...own-as-team-principal-of-mercedes-f1-reports/

"As unbelievable as it sounds, the Austrian is allegedly expected to give up his role as team boss at the Brackley outfit. According to Motorsport-total.com, Wolff will announce his resignation before the start of the season. However, he may continue as a team principal in 2020. "
 

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Toto Wolff Stepping Down as Team Principal of Mercedes F1: https://www.essentiallysports.com/f...own-as-team-principal-of-mercedes-f1-reports/

"As unbelievable as it sounds, the Austrian is allegedly expected to give up his role as team boss at the Brackley outfit. According to Motorsport-total.com, Wolff will announce his resignation before the start of the season. However, he may continue as a team principal in 2020. "
Well well well ..... Is this the best silly season ever
 

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Toto Wolff Stepping Down as Team Principal of Mercedes F1: https://www.essentiallysports.com/f...own-as-team-principal-of-mercedes-f1-reports/

"As unbelievable as it sounds, the Austrian is allegedly expected to give up his role as team boss at the Brackley outfit. According to Motorsport-total.com, Wolff will announce his resignation before the start of the season. However, he may continue as a team principal in 2020. "
Penskey Mercedes might become a reality and Vettel to Racing Point Aston Martin India might not seem so far fetched after all.
 

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fork....

Williams considers team sale, ROKiT sponsorship terminated: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149675/williams-considering-f1-team-sale-amid-13mil-loss

Williams is considering a partial or even full sale of its Formula 1 team as part of a new strategic direction aimed at securing its future.

On the back of increased financial pressures caused by the coronavirus pandemic, the Grove-based outfit communicated on Friday that it has appointed joint financial advisers to assist in its review and find parties who could be interested in investment or a takeover.

Williams chief executive officer Mike O'Driscoll also revealed that the team has served notice to terminate its title sponsorship deal with ROKit.

The team finished bottom of the constructors standings for the second consecutive season in 2019, with Robert Kubica's 10th place finish at the German GP its only point of the year.

The announcement about the team's strategic review comes as the Williams group revealed its 2019 financial figures, which resulted in a loss of £13 million - compared to a profit of £12.9 million the previous year.

A statement from the team said: "The WGPH board is undertaking a review of all the various strategic options available to the Company.

"Options being considered include, but are not limited to, raising new capital for the business, a divestment of a minority stake in WGPH, or a divestment of a majority stake in WGPH including a potential sale of the whole Company.

"Whilst no decisions have been made regarding the optimal outcome yet, to facilitate discussions with interested parties, the Company announces the commencement of a "formal sale process."

The outfit said that it had not had any discussions yet about being bought, but there had been talks regarding investment opportunities. ...
 

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Posted about this at the same time.

I called it before the world went tits up. F1 wouldn't come out of this unscathed.

Mercedes won't be around much longer and I wouldn't be surprised if Renault bails soon.
Well both Daimler and Cyril Abiteboul are both adamant they're not going anywhere anytime soon, but that may just be a public facade. Who knows what is going on around boardroom tables at the respective organisations right now...
 

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Well both Daimler and Cyril Abiteboul are both adamant they're not going anywhere anytime soon, but that may just be a public facade. Who knows what is going on around boardroom tables at the respective organisations right now...
Daimler had losses running in to the billions last year and shed 10,000 jobs globally. Renault is in a similar position. The Corona pandemic is going to hit car sales even further.

Maybe the budget cap will keep them involved.
 

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Daimler had losses running in to the billions last year and shed 10,000 jobs globally. Renault is in a similar position. The Corona pandemic is going to hit car sales even further.

Maybe the budget cap will keep them involved.
And now supposedly Nikita Mazepin's father is being touted as a possible buyer of the Renault F1 team, given that he lost out on the Force India sale to Stroll Sr. Is this how F1 is going to be in the future? I want to see Ferrari vs Mercedes vs Renault vs Honda vs BMW vs Toyota, not Racing Point vs Haas vs MazepinF1 etc etc etc.
 

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Renault remains committed to F1 despite exit rumours: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/149677/renault-committed-to-f1-despite-exit-rumours

... Clotilde Delbos, Renault's financial boss and currently acting chief executive, has made it clear that the changes are crucial to the company's decision.

"We have said publicly and we confirm that we remain committed to Formula 1," she said in a phone call with analysts today.

"The announcement of new regulations on spending limits is very good for us because we will have to invest less in this discipline than some of our competitors who spend a lot of money."

Renault will enter 2021 with a change in its driver line-up, after Daniel Ricciardo signed a deal with McLaren for next season.

In an exclusive interview with Autosport last week, Renault F1 boss Cyril Abiteboul had suggested that the team was looking to stay within F1.

"We've been in Formula 1 since the '70s, we've been loyal to Formula 1, and clearly as we look forward I think it's important to stay true to your roots," Abiteboul said.

"Motorsport has a unique value and contribution into it. That's why we believe in it, just like we believe in a number of marketing activities, except that it's sport, except that it's been a core of technology.

"That's racing, that's emotion also, and Renault stands for emotion. So all of that means a lot. And that's why we've been in this for a decade and we intend to do so for very long."
 

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And now supposedly Nikita Mazepin's father is being touted as a possible buyer of the Renault F1 team, given that he lost out on the Force India sale to Stroll Sr. Is this how F1 is going to be in the future? I want to see Ferrari vs Mercedes vs Renault vs Honda vs BMW vs Toyota, not Racing Point vs Haas vs MazepinF1 etc etc etc.
Personally, I don't think F1 makes it to 2030.

Formula E has all the manufacturer support and electric power is were the future lies.

BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, Nissan, Jaguar and the PSA Group (Under their DS brand) are all in FE, along with Mahindra.

As for Haas, their time in F1 may be coming to an end soon. Gene Haas has said F1 Involvement has already served its primary function; opened his company to a wider market, so if the results are not there he has no further need to be in F1.
 

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"A breaking news story from Germany, F1-Insider and Motorsport Total are claiming that Mercedes AMG Formula 1 team boss Toto Wolff will be likely to step down, and the board of Mercedes are deciding on the team’s future in F1. ...

According to Ralph Bach of F1-Insider, Toto Wolff will resign from his operational role at the head of the factory team after the end of his contract and switch to the team’s supervisory board.

And it is not yet clear who will become his successor. Wolff had already indicated that he was thinking about his role in the team: “It’s not just a question of whether I am now extending my contract as team leader, but what we are going to do with this joint company.” says Wolff....

What would happen to Stroll’s Formula 1 team Racing Point (from 2021 as Aston Martin) remains unclear. It is quite possible that it will be used as a B team. A merger with the ex-Mercedes factory team or a sale are also conceivable. according to Bach of F1-Insider. "

 

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So it looks like the season is definitely going to kick off on July 5th in Austria with a second round there a week later. As far as I know, they were then going to go to Silverstone for another double header a few weeks later but apparently the government is dragging their heels in not giving special exemption to the F1 concern in that they may still have to undergo a 2 week quarantine when arriving. F1 is currently negotiating with them and it is said ol' Boris Johnson is advocating to let them race. So let's see. There was talk a while ago that Hockenheim would be ready to step in should Silverstone not go ahead but that conversation has been quiet since.
 

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"A breaking news story from Germany, F1-Insider and Motorsport Total are claiming that Mercedes AMG Formula 1 team boss Toto Wolff will be likely to step down, and the board of Mercedes are deciding on the team’s future in F1. ...

According to Ralph Bach of F1-Insider, Toto Wolff will resign from his operational role at the head of the factory team after the end of his contract and switch to the team’s supervisory board.

And it is not yet clear who will become his successor. Wolff had already indicated that he was thinking about his role in the team: “It’s not just a question of whether I am now extending my contract as team leader, but what we are going to do with this joint company.” says Wolff....

What would happen to Stroll’s Formula 1 team Racing Point (from 2021 as Aston Martin) remains unclear. It is quite possible that it will be used as a B team. A merger with the ex-Mercedes factory team or a sale are also conceivable. according to Bach of F1-Insider. "

Old news but confirmed now then.
 

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Anyone knows exactly why the Ferrari F2005 was so poor?

I understand that Alonso was probably the best driver in 2005 but the fact that Schumacher only won one race (which he probably would not have won if not for the Michelin controversy that year) illustrates that something was horribly wrong with the car especially as he was coming of a successful 2004.
 

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Anyone knows exactly why the Ferrari F2005 was so poor?

I understand that Alonso was probably the best driver in 2005 but the fact that Schumacher only won one race (which he probably would not have won if not for the Michelin controversy that year) illustrates that something was horribly wrong with the car especially as he was coming of a successful 2004.
That was the first year banning tyre changes and Bridgestone was nowhere near Michelin.
 
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