F1 2021: New season discussion and chat

[jones123]

Telemetry said there was no brake test

FIA analysis showed Hamilton did not brake-test Vettel

Stewards at F1's Azerbaijan GP found no evidence in telemetry data of Lewis Hamilton either brake-testing or lifting off unexpectedly in his clash with Sebastian Vettel before Sunday's second safety car restart.

www.motorsport.com

Even Vettel said so afterwards

Vettel accepts Hamilton did not brake-test him · RaceFans

Sebastian Vettel has accepted Lewis Hamilton did not brake test him during the Azerbaijan Grand Prix after being asked by the Mercedes driver to state so.

www.racefans.net

But you know, no need for your bias to cloud your judgement

He slowed down at a blind corner . Should constitute dangerous driving . Imho
Regardless of what telemetry said.

 

[caroper]

The Stewards have access to the Telemetry, more video angles than are shown on TV, and first hand accounts from drives and Team representatives. That is why they make the decisions and not the TV audience.

We all watch F1 because we enjoy it, if you are no longer doing so then stop watching and at least allow the rest of us to savor the close battle we have wanted for the past 7 years....

At least the Turbo Fans stop whining when the race ends, I wish the Race Fans would too.

 

[Yats]

He slowed down at a blind corner . Should constitute dangerous driving . Imho
Regardless of what telemetry said.

If that corner is blind, why is there a gap between the wall and the kerb? The corner isn't blind, you are.

The vid the still was taken from

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

We all know Max was breaking for a long time so as to be careful where he was for the DRS zone.
The Hamilnaai fans are crying foul play about break testing or whatever the jargon term is.

 

[Enzo Matrix]

We all know Max was breaking for a long time so as to be careful where he was for the DRS zone.
The Hamilnaai fans are crying foul play about break testing or whatever the jargon term is.

BRAKING OMFG B R A K I N G

 

[Archer]

Toto after HAM goes into the back of VER

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/r9o23m

Toto after VER gets a penalty

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/ra3ric

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

BRAKING OMFG B R A K I N G

Apologies, I don't have Matric

 

[JohnStarr]

BRAKING OMFG B R A K I N G

Where's your punctuation at the end of the ALL CAPS RAGE?

 

[Hamster]

Toto after HAM goes into the back of VER

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/r9o23m

Toto after VER gets a penalty

https://www.reddit.com/r/formuladank/comments/ra3ric

"I'm AFK guys"

"Ok, what did I miss?"

 

[caroper]

I guess the IMDB site update did not include updating the content ........

 

[jones123]

If that corner is blind, why is there a gap between the wall and the kerb? The corner isn't blind, you are.

The vid the still was taken from

I just rewatched.
I apologise for my poor recollection

 

[Dave]

So since this is a drama and penalty filled season I'm gonna put this out here first:

Next weekend Max finished 1.8 seconds in front of Hamilton to claim the WDC but gets a 5 sec time penalty

Don't be a naai now

What if Carlos was third and only 1 second behind Hamilton?

The telemetry.

Max was very clearly - and consistently - decelerating before Lewis ran in to him. Speed dropped from ~300 km/h to ~120 km/h at the point of contact. Max's braking pressure only became ''abnormal'' in the milliseconds before contact (you can see this in the change of the speed slope prior to contact).

Also take note of the gear graph comparing laps 35, 36, 37. Max was gearing down in a part of the track where you don't shift down.

That Lewis found himself in a situation where they were at a near stand-still - by an F1 car's standards - is his own fault.

Your post made me think of this tweet (just substitute "Stewards" for Brundle and "Staggy" for Pete)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1467581188017639427

 

[thestaggy]

Your post made me think of this tweet (just substitute "Stewards" for Brundle and "Staggy" for Pete)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1467581188017639427

Gotcha. Sitting behind a slowing car on a flatout section under green flag conditions is perfectly reasonable.

 

[Dave]

Gotcha. Sitting behind a slowing car on a flatout section under green flag conditions is perfectly reasonable.

The stewards seemed to think so, no?

 

[Dave]

 

[losta]

FIA is not really balancing its decisions

 

[Dave]

FIA is not really balancing its decisions

Where did Hamilton ignore double yellow flags?

And don't all the teams get the same engine allocation?

 

[ScottulusMaximus]

What irks me that people aren't talking about:

Max gains advantage off track
Tries to give the place back and Lewis hits him
Let's Lewis through and retakes him on the drs
Let Lewis through a third time
5s penalty because he didn't give the place back in 3 laps

 

[Dave]

Max gains advantage off track
Tries to give the place back and Lewis hits him

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth the hassle posting factual reports when people parrot on the same idiotic nonsense that's been rebutted pages ages ago...

In deciding to penalise the driver of Car 33, the key point for the Stewards was that the driver of Car 33 then braked suddenly (69 bar) and significantly, resulting in 2.4g deceleration.

However, the sudden braking by the driver of Car 33 was determined by the Stewards to be erratic and hence the predominant cause of the collision and hence the standard penalty of 10 seconds for this type of incident, is imposed.

 

[Sinbad]

Sometimes I wonder why it's worth the hassle posting factual reports when people parrot on the same idiotic nonsense that's been rebutted pages ages ago...

Let's be honest, Lulu should really not have been where he was when Max hit the brakes. If indeed he was slowing down because of a potential track hazard ahead, surely hiding under the rear wing of the car in front isn't going to help you see what's coming any better?